[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL

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No need for mule.
Caustic Arrow will do the job fine just level the gems along the way.


Since I am already testing league-starts since I am done with this league this is what I came up with in 10 runs:

Fastest way so far was a shadow mule for flask + onlaught + cobra lash gem, Start with Cobra Lash + lesser Poison + onslaught, Level Viper strike along side, merveil is the toughest Opponent but she was allright on Viper strike + added Cold + lesser Poison.

In A2 I swapped as soon as possible to Viper strike + melee Splash + melee phys dmg, once 4 links are available deadly ailments Comes in while lesser Poison can be replaced. For Auras I went with HoA, HoP and HoT, then I basically started to faceroll and once Plague Bearer kicked in I started to be quite fast, even before first lab.

But I will be testing some more Setups. Maybe we get a better start goin :-)
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Vennto wrote:
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No need for mule.
Caustic Arrow will do the job fine just level the gems along the way.


Since I am already testing league-starts since I am done with this league this is what I came up with in 10 runs:

Fastest way so far was a shadow mule for flask + onlaught + cobra lash gem, Start with Cobra Lash + lesser Poison + onslaught, Level Viper strike along side, merveil is the toughest Opponent but she was allright on Viper strike + added Cold + lesser Poison.

In A2 I swapped as soon as possible to Viper strike + melee Splash + melee phys dmg, once 4 links are available deadly ailments Comes in while lesser Poison can be replaced. For Auras I went with HoA, HoP and HoT, then I basically started to faceroll and once Plague Bearer kicked in I started to be quite fast, even before first lab.

But I will be testing some more Setups. Maybe we get a better start goin :-)


Triple herald isn't a bad idea. I might try that.
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Yalpe wrote:
The fact that the bis claws are so easy to craft makes me wonder if I should league start this again next time. I tried five other builds and they all got stuck into red maps without significant investments.


Its a really strong build, but I dont know if I can play the same thing 2 leagues in a row. I feel the same way, though.

I may play Scourge Arrow next league just for the sole fact I dunno if I could run it back since I spent so much time in this league.

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Yalpe wrote:
My PoB is over 15m IIRC with 15 wither stacks. 34m with VS. I have no idea if its configured prooerly however. You can load up my character if you want and call me out ;) I feel like anything over 10M is gravy.
People usually set the enemy is "shaper/guardian", because DPS vs. trash is high enough anyway. That halves the DPS.

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Yalpe wrote:
Oh, I don't have a Watcher's Eye either.
Well, why not? Depending on the mods it's a pretty significant DPS boost.
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Vennto wrote:
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No need for mule.
Caustic Arrow will do the job fine just level the gems along the way.


Since I am already testing league-starts since I am done with this league this is what I came up with in 10 runs:

Fastest way so far was a shadow mule for flask + onlaught + cobra lash gem, Start with Cobra Lash + lesser Poison + onslaught, Level Viper strike along side, merveil is the toughest Opponent but she was allright on Viper strike + added Cold + lesser Poison.

In A2 I swapped as soon as possible to Viper strike + melee Splash + melee phys dmg, once 4 links are available deadly ailments Comes in while lesser Poison can be replaced. For Auras I went with HoA, HoP and HoT, then I basically started to faceroll and once Plague Bearer kicked in I started to be quite fast, even before first lab.

But I will be testing some more Setups. Maybe we get a better start goin :-)


Tnx for the effort! Keep us posted :)
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blastinMot wrote:
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Yalpe wrote:
My PoB is over 15m IIRC with 15 wither stacks. 34m with VS. I have no idea if its configured prooerly however. You can load up my character if you want and call me out ;) I feel like anything over 10M is gravy.
People usually set the enemy is "shaper/guardian", because DPS vs. trash is high enough anyway. That halves the DPS.

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Yalpe wrote:
Oh, I don't have a Watcher's Eye either.
Well, why not? Depending on the mods it's a pretty significant DPS boost.


Mines on Sirus. Its almost the same. No Watcher's Eye because I did not have enough currency and when I did, I decided to try 4-5 other builds. One was Thornstein's Death Angel.
Last edited by Yalpe#3404 on May 19, 2020, 5:49:30 AM
Playing this build from the start of the league. I agree the build is fun and can do every content but it's very hard to play and not to die... ATM can't solve problems with bosses like sirus or elder guardians(they are one shoting me every time). May be something with my gear or P.tree... or it's just my hands and no experience in game(second league)
But yeah build is fun and looks strong)
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Migipadl wrote:
Playing this build from the start of the league. I agree the build is fun and can do every content but it's very hard to play and not to die... ATM can't solve problems with bosses like sirus or elder guardians(they are one shoting me every time). May be something with my gear or P.tree... or it's just my hands and no experience in game(second league)
But yeah build is fun and looks strong)
Your gear isn't bad, but it isn't spectacular either. No Chaos DoT Multi on weapons, no Accuracy on Ring, Helm is super basic, no chaos resistance exept for the Circle of Nostalgia, no good corruptions, Gems not max level etc.
You can't expect a melee build to destroy the entire endgame with that low investment. Well exept maybe a Cycloner...

The build isn't super easy to play, but it isn't exactly hard either. Get some better gear and more levels, you will start to die less.

One thing you can change immediately is the boot enchant. Pathfinder is immune to chill anyway, no need for that mod, so replace it with Movespeed/Chance to get onslaught on kill. Should be a decent DPS increase while mapping at least.

Edit: Also look for a new abyss jewel. This thing really has to have some life on it.
Last edited by Corioliss#1726 on May 19, 2020, 12:47:02 PM
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Yalpe wrote:
Mines on Sirus. Its almost the same. No Watcher's Eye because I did not have enough currency and when I did, I decided to try 4-5 other builds. One was Thornstein's Death Angel.

Checked out your PoB again.
Your DPS does seem good.
Maybe I didn't have flasks active or forget to skill the damn cluster jewels by hand.

What I would change or what is different to my build:
- the implicits on your Circle of Nostalgia suck in my opinion
- you can get really interesting strong implicits on there, for exmaple onslaught on hit (not on kill!) or "poisons deal damage faster"

- I would probably swap Wicked Pall for Wasting Affliction
- slightly lower overall dps (110k or something), but faster dmg ramp up will make up for it for sure

- a little on the lower side of life (under 5k)

- you do have more physical mitigation, but big elemental hits will still be a problem
- 1% all max. res is pretty neat though

- your are missing 1% lightning res to cap at 76%

It is definitely up there, nice work! :)
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Corioliss wrote:
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Migipadl wrote:
Playing this build from the start of the league. I agree the build is fun and can do every content but it's very hard to play and not to die... ATM can't solve problems with bosses like sirus or elder guardians(they are one shoting me every time). May be something with my gear or P.tree... or it's just my hands and no experience in game(second league)
But yeah build is fun and looks strong)
Your gear isn't bad, but it isn't spectacular either. No Chaos DoT Multi on weapons, no Accuracy on Ring, Helm is super basic, no chaos resistance exept for the Circle of Nostalgia, no good corruptions, Gems not max level etc.
You can't expect a melee build to destroy the entire endgame with that low investment. Well exept maybe a Cycloner...

The build isn't super easy to play, but it isn't exactly hard either. Get some better gear and more levels, you will start to die less.

One thing you can change immediately is the boot enchant. Pathfinder is immune to chill anyway, no need for that mod, so replace it with Movespeed/Chance to get onslaught on kill. Should be a decent DPS increase while mapping at least.

Edit: Also look for a new abyss jewel. This thing really has to have some life on it.

Adding to that:
- get an amulet with INT/STR implicit, to try and save the +30 STR passive point
- your rare ring is missing a suffix, for example int/2x resist/life shouldn't be too expensive
- shoot for around 5k life, you need to gain 2-3 character levels for that (so you can fit another small cluster jewel with fettle)
- that abyssal jewel is seriously bad

Against bosses guardians:
Most "small life pool" builds can't facetank them. You have to dodge the big attacks (minotaur ground shoot up, chicken nugget guy explosion etc.).
You need some more dps so the fights don't seem too dragged out for this. Because evading 1-2 off the big hits is pretty is and dps is good with all the flasks up. But after that the sustained dps drops off a bit and suddenly the fights get more difficult.

Edit: Chicken nugget guy = Phoenix Guardian
Last edited by blastinMot#6703 on May 19, 2020, 1:20:31 PM

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