China's Gaming Curfew - Tencent main enforcement

An interesting article, and China is leveraging Tencent to enforce many of these stipulations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-50315960

I'm most interested on how time determinations are made by account (and how spending is tracked as "minor" purchases.)

Edit: for clarity, I meant purchases made by minors, not minor amounts. Like if a parents CC is used, is that considered a purchase by a minor account?

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LowBudget780 wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

An interesting article, and China is leveraging Tencent to enforce many of these stipulations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-50315960

I'm most interested on how time determinations are made by account (and how spending is tracked as "minor" purchases.)

Edit: for clarity, I meant purchases made by minors, not minor amounts. Like if a parents CC is used, is that considered a purchase by a minor account?

It's interesting for sure, video game addiction is a real thing.

No it's not.

Not a single studdy has found a mental disorder derived from excesive video gaming.

On the contrary, people with an introvert personality type actually perform better socially because of online communication.

Don't propagate things you didn't look into please, it's quite stupid. It's with that mentality that we get the WHO addopting "video game adiction" as a medical disorder to "treat" and put kids on pills without any evidence for it.

Similar to how boys are being treated for "adhd" and given ritaline which stunts their brain development in todays age instead of just giving them rough rudimentary physical excercise.

Next generation are going to have to deal with some messed up children because of all these controle freak parents and social structures.

Peace,

-Boem-

But this is very aggressive and could impact many companies revenue streams.

I mean you are talking about maxing out gameplay per week to 13.5 hours total for every minor in China, not to mention total bans from 10pm to 8am.

It's quite dramatic imo.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

It's quite dramatic imo.

Unlike the social scoring system, which is just a walk in the park.

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I see nothing thats particularly abnormal about this kind of legislation given what we know so far.

does it reduce freedom : check
does it reduce individualism : check
is it a form of general planning : check
is it experimental and not backed up by science : check

Just another human labratory experiment, not to mention the male to female ratio in china is currently 4 to 1, so good luck keeping all of the males calm with such a defunct population piramid and limiting outlets for excess energy.

Here is a novel thought, maybe if they didn't enact the one-child policy males wouldn't be mass gaming currently and outside looking for women.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

It's quite dramatic imo.

Unlike the social scoring system, which is just a walk in the park.

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I see nothing thats particularly abnormal about this kind of legislation given what we know so far.

does it reduce freedom : check
does it reduce individualism : check
is it a form of general planning : check
is it experimental and not backed up by science : check

Just another human labratory experiment, not to mention the male to female ratio in china is currently 4 to 1, so good luck keeping all of the males calm with such a defunct population piramid and limiting outlets for excess energy.

Here is a novel thought, maybe if they didn't enact the one-child policy males wouldn't be mass gaming currently and outside looking for women.

Peace,

-Boem-

Idk I suppose the arbitrary numbers, from questionable science is what I meant.

90 minutes per day seems out of nowhere. Why would playing til 11pm cause a problem?

Also this old trope about video games and virgins (or insert whatever inept dating practices are a result of video games) is just foolish.

I mean you could correlate the #metoo movement with successful young men preferring a sex doll, or escort services, to the risk of actual relationships that may endanger their company and future.

Finally addiction itself is a real problem. And dangerous addictions, probably should have some govt oversight. (Heroin, cocaine, DIU and alcohol, ect...)
If a country, or governing body, truly believes this is a problem, shouldn't they act? Idk tough question. There is a battle going on now in the states with teens, vaping, Juul, and health problems, that are toeing the line of personal freedom too.

Edit: sorry I know I jumped around a bit there. Basically personal freedom is a bit of a buzzword when it comes to harmful or addictive situations. I'm mean surely you aren't suggesting there should be no laws on drug use, operating vehicles while intoxicated, ect..

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DarthSki44 wrote:

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Boem wrote:

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DarthSki44 wrote:

It's quite dramatic imo.

Unlike the social scoring system, which is just a walk in the park.

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I see nothing thats particularly abnormal about this kind of legislation given what we know so far.

does it reduce freedom : check
does it reduce individualism : check
is it a form of general planning : check
is it experimental and not backed up by science : check

Just another human labratory experiment, not to mention the male to female ratio in china is currently 4 to 1, so good luck keeping all of the males calm with such a defunct population piramid and limiting outlets for excess energy.

Here is a novel thought, maybe if they didn't enact the one-child policy males wouldn't be mass gaming currently and outside looking for women.

Peace,

-Boem-

Idk I suppose the arbitrary numbers, from questionable science is what I meant.

90 minutes per day seems out of nowhere. Why would playing til 11pm cause a problem?

Also this old trope about video games and virgins (or insert whatever inept dating practices are a result of video games) is just foolish.

I mean you could correlate the #metoo movement with successful young men preferring a sex doll, or escort services, to the risk of actual relationships that may endanger their company and future.

Finally addiction itself is a real problem. And dangerous addictions, probably should have some govt oversight. (Heroin, cocaine, DIU and alcohol, ect...)
If a country, or governing body, truly believes this is a problem, shouldn't they act? Idk tough question. There is a battle going on now in the states with teens, vaping, Juul, and health problems, that are toeing the line of personal freedom too.

Edit: sorry I know I jumped around a bit there. Basically personal freedom is a bit of a buzzword when it comes to harmful or addictive situations. I'm mean surely you aren't suggesting there should be no laws on drug use, operating vehicles while intoxicated, ect..

Just to make it clear, my "correlation" between one child policy and the current events is about as scientific as the current suggestion that gaming is harmfull.

It's "reading a conclusion into it", forming a conclusion and then formulating hypothesis that support it. It's the complete opposite of the scientific method.(i used "novel idea" as a "just as good explenation as addiction currently)

As far as my personal believes, i believe in a liberal society which means that people are free to destroy their own lives by the methods of their choosing, as long as it does not dirrectly infringe on other people to do so.

So a law against drunk driving is perfectly acceptable since it hinders the freedom of third parties.

A law that dictates you need to wear seatbelts however is not acceptable in my view.

That's the state forcing you into a choice that has nothing to do with third parties freedom.(and consequentially forcing company's)

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

Just to make it clear, my "correlation" between one child policy and the current events is about as scientific as the current suggestion that gaming is harmfull.

It's "reading a conclusion into it", forming a conclusion and then formulating hypothesis that support it. It's the complete opposite of the scientific method.(i used "novel idea" as a "just as good explenation as addiction currently)

As far as my personal believes, i believe in a liberal society which means that people are free to destroy their own lives by the methods of their choosing, as long as it does not dirrectly infringe on other people to do so.

So a law against drunk driving is perfectly acceptable since it hinders the freedom of third parties.

A law that dictates you need to wear seatbelts however is not acceptable in my view.

That's the state forcing you into a choice that has nothing to do with third parties freedom.(and consequentially forcing company's)

Peace,

-Boem-

Would you consider "society" as a 3rd party being impacted by personal choices?

You bring up seatbelts, which is an interesting choice. The main reason seatbelts (or motorcycle helmet) laws are in place is due to economic impacts. Should insurance rates, both medical and auto be higher for everyone due to personal choice? If you are significantly injured (disability), should we have to pay taxes to support you the rest of your life?

I for one dont want a heroin dispensary on one side of my local CVS, with a brothel on the other. Fortunately my community gets a vote on stuff like this (bars, strip clubs, ect), but not everyone has that luxury, and seemingly group voting goes against your personal freedom theory?

Listen I dont want the govt to tell me that sugary drinks are bad for me, and thus illegal, in some sort of Demolition Man Dystopia, but I certainly dont have the faith in Humanity to let personal freedom run wild either.

I dont want to subsidise your unhealthy diabetic, overweight, lifestyle, while I'm at the gym. This stuff pisses me off. Or why should I pay for your 7 kids to go to public school? Or have my medical insurance rates be higher due to other "personal choices".

I'm not saying China is the answer, obviously that's absurd, but we do as a society, have to set some limits.

Double post

Well for time determinations, China only has a single time zone, so they don't need to track where you are.