I think it's time to leave, too.
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Posted byspokipo#1869on Jul 21, 2021, 9:35:28 PM
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SouthSide_Chicago wrote:
I need to be careful here so Lisa or any of the other comment police don't get triggered and delete it.
To those who are angry over these nerfs/changes, oh well. [Removed by Support]
The people who are going to be effected the most by these changes/nerfs [Removed by Support]: those who run around with packs of minions killing everything. Those who aren't familiar with the game/boss mechanics.
Will this be the downfall of poe? Who knows, definitely not you. Just remember, In every single update since the games inception there are absolute wizards out there finding ways to make builds that obliterate the game.
My advice, set some sort of goals in the beginning and stick to them. Try to get to lvl 100, make your own build without following a guide, try to get a Mirror or a Headhunter.
Lastly, if you are still undecided on which build to play, consider essence drain contagion/bane or ANY poison build.
I'm 100% sure this is true. Buuuut...
With all the nerfs to about absolutly everything - how much EX do u expect to pay for such a build in 3.15 ... 2? 3 Mirrors? ... Let's just say 1 ... Which will be unrealistic as everything will be much more expensiv. Everything with a value to mitigate those nerfs atleast. While all those high demand Items will be more expensiv you will have to spend way more time now to gather all the currency. Ok we need a mirror. I played PoE for about 3.5k hours and never had so much currency in a league that I could afford a mirror. Hmm ... What do u think how much I care about a build that rolls through content like pre patch but I will never be able to play myself?
And - just saying - Chris is doing all this to support more build diversity. If there are any builds able to zoom through content for "casually affordable 1 Mirror Items" it will be nerfed to non existence. Unless it includes a headhunter or is a aurabot. While all this Power for non meta builds is (probably) finally gone to be viable, Aurabots will still be overwhelming stronk and a headhunter build will still zoom through content.
"But this game needs chase Items!"
Sure. I 100% agree. So why nerf all those Awakened Gems - they were a mid tier chase item imho. Why nerf Aw.Hextouch from 20ex worth to 5c worth? Those won't be valuable anymore and way less worth grinding. Why delete Empower, Enlighten Lv.2+ from loot pools? Another mid tier chase Item. Why nerf Dying Sun, Bottled Faith - those were good chase Items. Only chase Items left are Hateforge and Headhunter. Can't tell much about hateforge but the power of a headhunter is way too high than being left in the game after all these nerf because "ToO mUcH PoWeR cReEp"...
Someone just wrote his build goes from 330m dps (pre patch) to about 110m dps (post patch). Who cares? This is still enough. 2/3 less damage is hugh but over 100m left - is ok I guess. But someone with only 3.3m dps (pre patch) will have 1.1m dps (post patch). But yeah ... "mOrE bUiLd DiVeRsItY..." Not even considering some mobs will hit harder and have more hp while our defensiv mechanics are nerfed a lot...
The point is - all those "excuses" why those nerfs are on their way are just nonsense.
"MaKiNg ThE gAmE hArDeR!" Getting more one shots isn't going to make the game harder - it's just going to make the game less enjoyable tho more frustrating. And tideous and boring. With less diversity and stupid item prices. Lets play 1 week campaign before grinding 4 weeks for 32 Watchstones in future leagues. Yeah - it's so much fun to do something u already did x times waaaaay slower with much more frustration.
Instead GGG could add more end game content. Harder Maps beyond T16. Exalted Bosses to fight power creep. But no no just nerf everthing so build diversity dies and zoom zoom damn expensiv builds will still zoom zoom. Nothing changed for those gaining a lot of currency - just for those who don't...
"BuT mAkInG tHe GaMe HaRdEr Is ThEiR vIsIoN"
Sure. We all noticed that. But one might think after all past leagues and adding Cluster Jewels, Influenced Items / Mods, adding deterministic crafting, adding new Bosses, adding more influenced maven orb super duper mods, adding delirius maps (TL:DR - adding more power creep and adding more challenging content to use it) that this is "THE Vision". One might also like this way of development and maybe supported GGG with $$$ because one had fun with the game. Maybe, just maybe one might feel a bit betrayed now as GGG is trying to change the game from something u liked and supported with $$$ is completly changing. Imagine supporting a Kickstarter Campaign for selling Carrots. Because u loooove carrots. Carrots are damn funny and enjoyable. And now - as the campaign reached its goals they just say "Fuck it - lets sell apples" ... This is what currently happens with poe. Kinda. They'll never sell apples or even wanted to sell carrots. But I guess everyone gets what I mean.
My 2 cents. U can keep them.
Last edited by phlaistar#7157 on Jul 21, 2021, 10:09:20 PM
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Posted byphlaistar#7157on Jul 21, 2021, 9:48:53 PM
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phlaistar wrote:
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SouthSide_Chicago wrote:
I need to be careful here so Lisa or any of the other comment police don't get triggered and delete it.
To those who are angry over these nerfs/changes, oh well. [Removed by Support]
The people who are going to be effected the most by these changes/nerfs [Removed by Support]: those who run around with packs of minions killing everything. Those who aren't familiar with the game/boss mechanics.
Will this be the downfall of poe? Who knows, definitely not you. Just remember, In every single update since the games inception there are absolute wizards out there finding ways to make builds that obliterate the game.
My advice, set some sort of goals in the beginning and stick to them. Try to get to lvl 100, make your own build without following a guide, try to get a Mirror or a Headhunter.
Lastly, if you are still undecided on which build to play, consider essence drain contagion/bane or ANY poison build.
I'm 100% sure this is true. Buuuut...
With all the nerfs to about absolutly everything - how much EX do u expect to pay for such a build in 3.15 ... 2? 3 Mirrors? ... Let's just say 1 ... Which will be unrealistic as everything will be much more expensiv. Everything with a value to mitigate those nerfs atleast. While all those high demand Items will be more expensiv you will have to spend way more time now to gather all the currency. Ok we need a mirror. I played PoE for about 3.5k hours and never had so much currency in a league that I could afford a mirror. Hmm ... What do u think how much I care about a build that rolls through content like pre patch but I will never be able to play myself?
And - just saying - Chris is doing all this to support more build diversity. If there are any builds able to zoom through content for "casually affordable 1 Mirror Items" it will be nerfed to non existence. Unless it includes a headhunter or is a aurabot. While all this Power for non meta builds is (probably) finally gone to be viable, Aurabots will still be overwhelming stronk and a headhunter build will still zoom through content.
"But this game needs chase Items!"
Sure. I 100% agree. So why nerf all those Awakened Gems - they were a mid tier chase item imho. Why nerf Aw.Hextouch from 20ex worth to 5c worth? Those won't be valuable anymore and way less worth grinding. Why delete Empower, Enlighten Lv.2+ from loot pools? Another mid tier chase Item. Why nerf Dying Sun, Bottled Faith - those were good chase Items. Only chase Items left are Hateforge and Headhunter. Can't tell much about hateforge but the power of a headhunter is way too high than being left in the game after all these nerf because "ToO mUcH PoWeR cReEp"...
Someone just wrote his build goes from 330m dps (pre patch) to about 110m dps (post patch). Who cares? This is still enough. 2/3 less damage is hugh but over 100m left - is ok I guess. But someone with only 3.3m dps (pre patch) will have 1.1m dps (post patch). But yeah ... "mOrE bUiLd DiVeRsItY..." Not even considering some mobs will hit harder and have more hp while our defensiv mechanics are nerfed a lot...
The point is - all those "excuses" why those nerfs are on their way are just nonsense.
"MaKiNg ThE gAmE hArDeR!" Getting more one shots isn't going to make the game harder - it's just going to make the game less enjoyable tho more frustrating. And tideous and boring. With less diversity and stupid item prices. Lets play 1 week campaign before grinding 4 weeks for 32 Watchstones in future leagues. Yeah - it's so much fun to do something u already did x times waaaaay slower with much more frustration.
Instead GGG could add more end game content. Harder Maps beyond T16. Exalted Bosses to fight power creep. But no no just nerf everthing so build diversity dies and zoom zoom damn expensiv builds will still zoom zoom. Nothing changed for those gaining a lot of currency - just for those who don't...
"BuT mAkInG tHe GaMe HaRdEr Is ThEiR vIsIoN"
Sure. We all noticed that. But one might think after all past leagues and adding Cluster Jewels, Influenced Items / Mods, adding deterministic crafting, adding new Bosses, adding more influenced maven orb super duper mods, adding delirius maps (TL:DR - adding more power creep and adding more challenging content to use it) that this is "THE Vision". One might also like this way of development and maybe supported GGG with $$$ because one had fun with the game. Maybe, just maybe one might feel a bit betrayed now as GGG is trying to change the game from something u liked and supported with $$$ is completly changing. Imagine supporting a Kickstarter Campaign for selling Carrots. Because u loooove carrots. Carrots are damn funny and enjoyable. And now - as the campaign reached its goals they just say "Fuck it - lets sell apples" ... This is what currently happens with poe. Kinda. They'll never sell apples or even wanted to sell carrots. But I guess everyone gets what I mean.
My 2 cents. U can keep them.
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Posted byExcytee#7080on Jul 21, 2021, 10:16:09 PM
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Let's GO
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Posted by00020#7563on Jul 21, 2021, 10:28:30 PM
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51percented wrote:
How to fix queue issue on launch:
a. New technology;
b. More and better servers;
c. No migration of useless stash crap;
d. No players
They chose (d.)
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Posted by123qwe12#1162on Jul 21, 2021, 10:33:52 PM
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phlaistar, your post is on point bro, but you don't need mirror-tier gear to crush this game. even after all the nerfs.
right now on twitch Ghazzy is updating his new spectre build on the new POB and gem levels play huge part, plus...let's be real, people are going to kill Sirius and Maven on Day 1-2...and they won't even be close to mirro builds.
Lastly, we are about 40 hours away from league start. I'm curious to see if all these people who say "i'm leaving" actually do...i dount it.
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Next time GGG will let you choose how they balance they game.
A) Nerf the player (nerf zoom zoom build, so more builds feel the same)
B) Buff the monster (zoom zoom build feels normal, and all others can die)
But the end product will feel the same.
You can still zoom zoom, but you are not the End game POE boss, the POE boss kills Zoom zoom, you get me no?
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Posted bylinghuchong9#4177on Jul 21, 2021, 11:33:58 PM
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Is this an out of season april fools joke?
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Posted byRakschas666#1738on Jul 22, 2021, 12:00:30 AM
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Rakschas666 wrote:
Is this an out of season april fools joke?
Brutal reality.
✨ Beta tester Path of Nerf 👀
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Posted byspokipo#1869on Jul 22, 2021, 12:11:22 AM
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after applying updated p.o.b, I can't stop laughing :)
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Posted byadioscowboy#5046on Jul 22, 2021, 12:21:37 AM
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