[3.25] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Nike4000 wrote:
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I would suggest replacing three of your life flasks for other types.


Any recommendation on the alternate flasks? I do notice that I'm not using the life flasks as often as I was, which is kinda good I guess. So, what should I replace them with?

I have both Atziri's Promise and Rumi's Concoction flasks in my inventory, but didn't know if it was still too early to equip them.


Both are good and add a Jade flask.
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WinterHiko wrote:
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Cyzax wrote:
My money strategy


That's a very interesting strategy! I'm wondering if the 20 or so points in Shadow Shaping + drops connected maps is worth it over buying the maps in bulk. You could allocate some more drop, like Essences or the rest of the top hat for more quant.

I've never had the guts to use Wandering Path for some reason. I have this irrationnal feeling of loss when I can't allocate the big dots. Doesn't the loss of the +50% chance of additionnal harvest and +10% for additionnal monster hurt your lifeforce returns too much? Maybe it's just that my brain has been conditionned to be unimpressed by travel nodes and excited for notables. I usually also run the improved Trials notable and the boss maps notables. How much lifeforce do you get from a typical map with that setup?

It is probably not the best atlas for money making, but it is fully map-sustained without any need for any investment. I get Harvest in around 80% of maps, and Delirium in about half.
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Cyzax wrote:
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WinterHiko wrote:
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Cyzax wrote:
My money strategy


That's a very interesting strategy! I'm wondering if the 20 or so points in Shadow Shaping + drops connected maps is worth it over buying the maps in bulk. You could allocate some more drop, like Essences or the rest of the top hat for more quant.

I've never had the guts to use Wandering Path for some reason. I have this irrationnal feeling of loss when I can't allocate the big dots. Doesn't the loss of the +50% chance of additionnal harvest and +10% for additionnal monster hurt your lifeforce returns too much? Maybe it's just that my brain has been conditionned to be unimpressed by travel nodes and excited for notables. I usually also run the improved Trials notable and the boss maps notables. How much lifeforce do you get from a typical map with that setup?

It is probably not the best atlas for money making, but it is fully map-sustained without any need for any investment. I get Harvest in around 80% of maps, and Delirium in about half.


I'm currently self-sustaining two maps while running in batches of 5 with only the left Kirac wheel and what leads to the FFtB notable. I'm not sure you need to get all of those small passives to oversustain.

EDIT : losing 10% pack size from Shaping the Valleys and all of the special Altar nodes really seems to dent your profits.
Last edited by WinterHiko#1542 on Jun 3, 2023, 9:27:39 AM
I have an Astramentis.
Should I anoint it with Charisma?
Last edited by Jhssutrx#1064 on Jun 3, 2023, 6:06:29 PM
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Jhssutrx wrote:
I have an Astramentis.
Should I anoint it with Charisma?


Yes. Charisma (to enable Hatred), then add Tranquility when you have the boots.
Last edited by WinterHiko#1542 on Jun 3, 2023, 8:48:04 PM
Can anyone give me any tips to improve my build, I'm just not sure if I need to grind out my currency and get high budget gear or if I'm set up incorrectly.

Thanks
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CartiWithThe9 wrote:
Can anyone give me any tips to improve my build, I'm just not sure if I need to grind out my currency and get high budget gear or if I'm set up incorrectly.

Thanks


I've taken a look at your character. Don't take this the wrong way, but you need to stick to the guide. A lot of the changes you've made are working against you. A few examples :

- This is a crit build. Using Coralito's Signature, which removes crits but scales poison, simply lowers your DPS.

- The Overflowing Chalice is quite bad, especially with "use when Frozen", which will never trigger because of Purity of Elements.

- You've got a random Cruelty support linked to no hitting skill. It does nothing.

- Your chest setup is a CWDT Vortex with Hextouch and a Purity of Element. You don't want Vortex on a CWDT, because you want to manually apply it at the right place (it doesn't interrupt Cyclone). You want Ball Lightning in that setup, because it basically hits everything on screen. You also don't want an aura in there, as it's super easy and cheap to roll a fourth socket in another piece of gear. Some people use a Vortex/Hextouch setup, but hardly with CWDT and it more difficult to apply curses all around. I'd stick with Ball Lightning.

- You have no source of additionnal curse, but two curses on chest. You cannot inflict two curses naturally, you need Whispers of Doom.

- I don't know why you have those skill gems in your gloves.

- You have a Quicksilver flask with The Stampede. The boots literally makes your quicksilver flask do nothing, as it sets your movement speed at 150%.

- Out of 7 slots that aren't the boots or staves, you have 4 with no intelligence. This is an intelligence-stacking build. It's the most important stat for your whole build. If you're having trouble with resistances, buy two Le Heup of All.

All in all, the best suggestion I can give you is to go back to the low-budget PoB and try to stick to it as much as possible, then work your way up to higher budget versions.

Hope that helps!
Is using Tasalio's sign with this build a good idea? More cold damage and freeze chance.
just looking over the guide again and i don't see much about lab enchants.

here's what i'll be using

belt:
Hits against Enemies Unnerved by you have 50% increased Spell Critical Strike Chance
(unnerve from gloves)

helm:
Purity of Elements has 30% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency

gloves:
Trigger Commandment of Reflection when Hit

poe is going down fast. Diablo 4 and Baldur's Gate 3 have no performance issues. play them instead
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Florent_poulpy wrote:
Is using Tasalio's sign with this build a good idea? More cold damage and freeze chance.


Try it out in PoB but it doesn't seem like it would provide enough damaga when compared to alternatives. It doesn't provide intelligence, which hurts it a lot.

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