3.24.2 Patch Notes

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Echothesis wrote:

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zombies99didnothingwrong wrote:

Delete party mf bonus and 20% or smth chance for capture additional beasts and corpses, people do twinks just for afk on maps and get free beasts and corpses, its kinda cringe
MF IS RUDIMENT (BAD)

Been saying this since day 1 of trying party in this game. One doesn't need to play illustration leagues to realize party bonuses are violating fair play, and lead to meme interactions like MF culler or these new afk leechers.

Every arpg uses separate loot generation in party for every party member, using that member's own stats, if any. But of course our dear poe has to follow special path and invent different system they cannot balance, but keep trying, bloating it with changes that plug one hole and create 2 more holes :)

How do you AFK leech exp and beasts?
You have to stand almost on top of the beast to have your 20% chance to get it and exp reach is about 1.5 screens

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trytosell wrote:

the lead are party player and aurabot

so that's how they balance the game
"Content is good, we cleared it in party with aurabot. Rewarding too"

I quit the game totally until they got rid of group bonuses. Moreover, scarabas killed the endgame variety. No reason to play league mechanics. Waiting for LE cycles and D4S4. I have no hope for PoE 2 either after all.

Nice work GGG, more party farm with more monster hp boost = more drop xD

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AkumaNoTsubasa wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

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zombies99didnothingwrong wrote:

Delete party mf bonus and 20% or smth chance for capture additional beasts and corpses, people do twinks just for afk on maps and get free beasts and corpses, its kinda cringe
MF IS RUDIMENT (BAD)

Been saying this since day 1 of trying party in this game. One doesn't need to play illustration leagues to realize party bonuses are violating fair play, and lead to meme interactions like MF culler or these new afk leechers.

Every arpg uses separate loot generation in party for every party member, using that member's own stats, if any. But of course our dear poe has to follow special path and invent different system they cannot balance, but keep trying, bloating it with changes that plug one hole and create 2 more holes :)

How do you AFK leech exp and beasts?
You have to stand almost on top of the beast to have your 20% chance to get it and exp reach is about 1.5 screens

By afk leechers I meant corpses. You can afk at the start of the map with naked character, and after others clear the map, you run over it and collect every corpse. Heard how it works from a friend who plays leagues and whose opinion I trust. No idea about beasts/exp, likely it is limited by replication radius like you said.

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Echothesis wrote:

By afk leechers I meant corpses. You can afk at the start of the map with naked character, and after others clear the map, you run over it and collect every corpse. Heard how it works from a friend who plays leagues and whose opinion I trust. No idea about beasts/exp, likely it is limited by replication radius like you said.

Actually this is an example of separate loot per party member, rare case for poe, and they already managed to screw it up, allowing meme interaction :) Corpse spawn should also be radius limited, so leechers would have to run with the rest of the party at least.

When will this be live for consoles? Looks like the launch of the leagues for pc and consoles does not apply to patches.

How are these people asking for mf & party play to be removed real? Is this something a streamer is pushing or something? What level-headed person would want to remove something actually good from the game? No one answered previously when I asked.

please remove mf gear from the game , thank you

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MLGonthorian wrote:

How are these people asking for mf & party play to be removed real? Is this something a streamer is pushing or something? What level-headed person would want to remove something actually good from the game? No one answered previously when I asked.

Party play with aurabots and such oversimplifies gameplay compared to the struggles of a solo player who has to build dmg and defence simultaneously. Problem became more noticeable with the introduction of T17 maps.

For this simplified gameplay - only follow each other around, no need to dodge anything, no need to worry about HH buffs and such - they get bonus that goes far beyond something that would just make party coordination worthwhile. They get insane multiplier that, when combined with something that can be abused, leads to profits that leaves solo players far behind. If 6-party are real people, they also loot faster than solo MF player. If it's multiboxing, cheater just reaps the profits alone, having advantage just because of having spare PC and twink setup.

I've heard many people saying things like "but man I played with 2 friends and we didn't shower in mirrors at all". Economy is wrecked not buy average joes who managed to fit a Ventor's Gamble in their build or just play with aurabot friend. When it's done _effectively_ , using the current best abuse strategy, dedicated traders (who are often bots btw), you have MASSIVE disparity between someone who is solo, MF or not, and party play.

To make things worse, these teams are more likely to be a group of nolifers, while solo players are more likely to be people with jobs. So you have parties who kill monsters all day, trading it all via trader or bot, doing that much more effectively than solo player, have loot multipliers (not additive with map/gear quant, multiplicative!) on top of that - and they affect all the economy and prices for people who just come to play after job. This is not fair.