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My firm but gentle reply to OP and everyone saying "a game can ruin your GPU" is that people with zero engineering and/or software knowledge should not make uninformed opinions and give uinformed replies.
On maximum loads: A demanding, poorly optimized, or high-settings game will ask your GPU to do a lot of work. A GPU is designed to be able to handle a certain amount of work (which becomes heat, which needs to be disipated). If your GPU cannot disipate heat as fast as it creates it, its temperature will rise. Two factors come into play here.
1) Engineers will use Safety Coefficients when designing things. That is to say, things are designed to handle more than you are told they can handle. This is to make sure they didn't screw up and make the design too tight to the limit, ensuring you don't break it.
2) GPUs have thermal protections and automation to prevent them from breaking from overheating. If they are not disipating heat fast enough and their temperature rises, they will just stop.
If your GPU broke because it was demanded too much, it was probably just faulty or poorly designed, as it's not the application that tells the GPU it's not safe to continue working. The GPU does that on its own. The fact that PoE broke it is irrelevant. Even if "other games ran fine", there's a concept in engineering known as fatigue. It is possible anything else you were doing (more PoE or other games) were already stressing your GPU, just so slightly over the limit that it didn't break but slowly deteriorated until it crashed.
On software: A game cannot rewrite your GPU's firmware, thus ruining its programming. Hell, malware basically never does this, because it's so fucking hard by comparison to everything else you could. So no, the game cannot run anything that will execute a code in your GPU to ruin it via software.
Last edited by ClockworkShrew#7536 on Jan 6, 2025, 9:57:31 AM
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If your gpu is constantly at over 100 degrees celcius, it will degrade overtime, in that case you have to cap your fps, you don't need 300 fps, it just make your GPU work extra hard and getting hot as a result.
Manage your GPU; watch your temps and cap your fps, you're welcome.
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Posted byWarrax#2850on Jan 6, 2025, 10:43:50 AM
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So I have seen a a few Posts saying that the Game crashing killed Parts of peoples Systems and didn't really believe it, but now it happened to me aswell and Poe2 can litterally be the only reason it happened.
I bought a new PC at the end of last year and got it on 24th December. Since then the only Game i have installed and played on it is Poe2. Now I got one of these freezes people talk about when trying to enter a Map. I waited a few Minutes before I waited and my PC restarted alone but my Screen was now Green/Red/Blue pixels. I called the Support where I bought my PC and they instantly said it's your GPU so they sent me a new one and I sent back back the old one. Installed the new GPU and everything works fine again and they tested my old one and it in fact is broken.
So can we get any Word from GGG about this Since it now happened on a Brand new GPU with the only Game being played on it being Poe2?
That is simply impossible.
A graphics card is designed to run at 100% capacity indefinitely.
Running at max quality settings does nothing but increase the time it takes to render each frame.
If it takes 5ms to render a frame at medium settings your (average) frame rate will be 200fps. If you crank the settings to ultra-extreme-psychotic-nightmare the GPU might take 10ms to render each frame and your (average) frame rate drops to 100fps.
Either way, the GPU is going to be working at 100%—assuming the CPU can keep up. This is why almost all RTX 3080/3090 or the top tier Radeons all have three GPU fans and beefy fin stacks. They will be trying to cool something that puts out a continuous 300W to 400W of heat.
Many of these cards are over-engineered so that they can keep GPU temps at or below 70°C at say, 80% fan speed for a more user-friendly experience.
The only possibility for damage is if it cause the graphics card to overheat, if airflow and pc cooling aren’t sufficient to keep it cool while handling the load.
Typically temps above high 80s (C) up into the 90’s aren’t good to have it at. High 80s, you’ll likely be fine but pushing it, but depends on the specific graphics card.
You should be able to google and look up max temps for your specific card. You can get program called HWiNFO that will monitor the temps of your cpu, gpu, drives, ect.
There’s other programs, but that’s what I use.
You can set it make a sound alert if a component gets above a certain temperature.
Then just leave running while gaming and then if your graphics card if getting too hot you’ll know and can lower settings, turn up fan speed, or whatever you need to/can do to try and lower the temperature it gets to.
So, to sum it up: Your graphics card was broken to begin with. POE 2 did not break it.
not 100% true.. smart people enable vSync at the refresh speed of their monitor, so the GPU will nto waste time rendering frames that your monitor cannot display.
My GPU runs the game at around 54% of its usage.
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Exactly this! No game can damage your hardware directly.
That is infact wrong.
It is not.. because no application can even access the GPU. it goes trough the HAL of the operating system and the Driver. So by definition no application can damage the GPU DIRECTLY!
It can reach a situation where a driver FAILS to protect properly the hardware although.
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A graphics card is designed to run at 100% capacity indefinitely.
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NO. they do have limits mostly only designed for 3/5 years. heavy usage.
as of now mine is almost 2 years old with almost 7k hours of game time on it. and when it hits 3 years old will be swapped out for a new one.
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Posted byWezdumb#7732on Jan 6, 2025, 11:36:16 AM
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GPUs have in-build security measures.
All electronic hardware, except the Samsung Galaxy Note 7.
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Posted byNer0suM#7473on Jan 6, 2025, 11:41:26 AM
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It was a radeon rtx 6750 xt and cause people in here claimed I let my GPU overwork or something, I always cap my Games at 60fps and alltho I could have run the Game on highest settings I lowered some of them just to get constant high Performance. I also had Vsync atcivated like some people here mentioned. The GPU also came separate to the PC and I put it in myself so there is no way there were some errors there.
It's also not a Problem for me cause I got a replacement already but everyone that didn't just buy a new System and therefore gets a free replacement.
And everyone here saying Games can't kill components is just completely wrong cause if a Game crashes your System over and over, there is always a chance it kills any component not just the GPU. Or it bricks ur Windows which is just as bad.
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Posted byIshikawaSenju#7954on Jan 6, 2025, 12:45:00 PM
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It was a radeon rtx 6750 xt and cause people in here claimed I let my GPU overwork or something, I always cap my Games at 60fps and alltho I could have run the Game on highest settings I lowered some of them just to get constant high Performance. I also had Vsync atcivated like some people here mentioned. The GPU also came separate to the PC and I put it in myself so there is no way there were some errors there.
It's also not a Problem for me cause I got a replacement already but everyone that didn't just buy a new System and therefore gets a free replacement.
And everyone here saying Games can't kill components is just completely wrong cause if a Game crashes your System over and over, there is always a chance it kills any component not just the GPU. Or it bricks ur Windows which is just as bad.
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Posted byIshikawaSenju#7954on Jan 6, 2025, 12:45:16 PM
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It was a radeon rtx 6750 xt and cause people in here claimed I let my GPU overwork or something, I always cap my Games at 60fps and alltho I could have run the Game on highest settings I lowered some of them just to get constant high Performance. I also had Vsync atcivated like some people here mentioned. The GPU also came separate to the PC and I put it in myself so there is no way there were some errors there.
It's also not a Problem for me cause I got a replacement already but everyone that didn't just buy a new System and therefore gets a free replacement.
And everyone here saying Games can't kill components is just completely wrong cause if a Game crashes your System over and over, there is always a chance it kills any component not just the GPU. Or it bricks ur Windows which is just as bad.
It changes nothing.
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Posted byDxt44#4050on Jan 6, 2025, 12:46:18 PMOn Probation
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So I have seen a a few Posts saying that the Game crashing killed Parts of peoples Systems and didn't really believe it, but now it happened to me aswell and Poe2 can litterally be the only reason it happened.
I bought a new PC at the end of last year and got it on 24th December. Since then the only Game i have installed and played on it is Poe2. Now I got one of these freezes people talk about when trying to enter a Map. I waited a few Minutes before I waited and my PC restarted alone but my Screen was now Green/Red/Blue pixels. I called the Support where I bought my PC and they instantly said it's your GPU so they sent me a new one and I sent back back the old one. Installed the new GPU and everything works fine again and they tested my old one and it in fact is broken.
So can we get any Word from GGG about this Since it now happened on a Brand new GPU with the only Game being played on it being Poe2?
"Dog ate my homework"
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Posted bydarkdhaos#6939on Jan 6, 2025, 12:46:37 PM
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