Last Epoch (LE) now has fewer players than Path of Exile 2 (POE 2). What does this tell us?

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Nervantoss#3263 wrote:

While many complainers tried to claim that LE would destroy POE 2 because it’s supposedly “super fun,” LE has lost players three times faster than POE 2.


What does this tell us? When you can blast through the endgame in three days, you move on to something else after those three days—that’s it. Many streamers didn’t even play LE for a full week, and several returned to POE 2, only to complain that the game is too hard.


GGG, you shouldn’t be afraid to fix the game, especially those bugged one-button builds. These are what’s killing the game, and most players don’t even realize it.
The OS vs. OS gameplay is ridiculous. What’s the point of having combat or boss mechanics when you can deal 20 million damage in one hit after just 7–8 hours of playtime?

Sure, there are legitimate criticisms about crafting, loot, or balance, but the game being “too hard” isn’t one of them. It’s actually too easy—or rather, unbalanced. I avoided using bugged mechanics, yet the only effective way to defeat bosses is to OS them.

I don’t mind a game being slower than POE 1; it’s a different game. But you shouldn’t balance the game around skills like Lightning Spear, where you need to put OS mechanics in the game to counter player power.

You have the opportunity to create a ARPG different. do it.

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cyndra#1936 wrote:

Tell me one ARPG game that hasnt had any sense of "zoom zoom" that has been successfull. You are still a minority to feel that way. Most people enjoy high pace.

Jeez.

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Nervantoss#3263 wrote:

While many complainers tried to claim that LE would destroy POE 2 because it’s supposedly “super fun,” LE has lost players three times faster than POE 2.

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

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Nervantoss#3263 wrote:

While many complainers tried to claim that LE would destroy POE 2 because it’s supposedly “super fun,” LE has lost players three times faster than POE 2.

LE cycles players faster because it still has too few content and too few different builds. And has same balancing issues as poe, on a smaller scale.

Difference is, EHG still has a trust bank from their players, and does not openly screw them or demonstratively ignore like GGG does. LE started small, and for now they keep working without trying to enforce soulslike experience at any cost (even when core game mechanics flat cannot support these soulslike gimmicks). Idk about others but for me this is enough.

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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 wrote:

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Echothesis#7320 wrote:

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Nervantoss#3263 wrote:

While many complainers tried to claim that LE would destroy POE 2 because it’s supposedly “super fun,” LE has lost players three times faster than POE 2.

LE cycles players faster because it still has too few content and too few different builds. And has same balancing issues as poe, on a smaller scale.

Difference is, EHG still has a trust bank from their players, and does not openly screw them or demonstratively ignore like GGG does. LE started small, and for now they keep working without trying to enforce soulslike experience at any cost (even when core game mechanics flat cannot support these soulslike gimmicks). Idk about others but for me this is enough.

So by the same logic that you say one should not compare LE with POE2, one shoudl nto compare POE1 and POE2 since POE1 has more content...

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Urza_Mechwalker#7393 wrote:

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cyndra#1936 wrote:

Tell me one ARPG game that hasnt had any sense of "zoom zoom" that has been successfull. You are still a minority to feel that way. Most people enjoy high pace.

Jeez.

Diablo 2.

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Sineseeker#0738 wrote:

Tells us last epoch has 0 bots....

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Tell me one ARPG game that hasnt had any sense of "zoom zoom" that has been successfull. You are still a minority to feel that way. Most people enjoy high pace.