Anticipation of Loot Apocalypse 2

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Bosscannon#3325 wrote:

1.Price of divines would go down twofold, but it wouldnt matter since you would have twice as much to spend, market would just adjust

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Affliction
From https://poe.ninja/poe1/data


So your first assumption is alredy fundamentally wrong, which makes the rest of your argument weakened and potentially unfounded.

You don't need to go as far as Affliction, just last league with people farming juiced Alva and breach:

(use the slider at the bottom to get data from the launch of last league)

https://poe.ninja/poe1/economy/mercenaries/currency/divine-orb

I know, but Affliction was largely viewed as a league that created currency in such a manner that, by his claims, would cause it to "go down twofold". *Shrugs*

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Z3RoNightMare#7140 wrote:

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Bosscannon#3325 wrote:

1.Price of divines would go down twofold, but it wouldnt matter since you would have twice as much to spend, market would just adjust

Keepers

Affliction
From https://poe.ninja/poe1/data


So your first assumption is alredy fundamentally wrong, which makes the rest of your argument weakened and potentially unfounded.

no correlation, if divines became twice as common tomorrow the chart would fall 2x and the current price or downward trend doesnt matter
the fact that you post this as proof that my cause and effect modeling is somehow flawed tells me you dont really understand whats being discusser or are pretending to be dumb to derail the flow of argument

what are you actually trying to say here? that more common divine availability increases their price against other items? are you having a fever?

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Bosscannon#3325 wrote:

no correlation, if divines became twice as common tomorrow the chart would fall 2x and the current price or downward trend doesnt matter
the fact that you post this as proof that my cause and effect modeling is somehow flawed tells me you dont really understand whats being discusser or are pretending to be dumb to derail the flow of argument

what are you actually trying to say here? that more common divine availability increases their price against other items? are you having a fever?

Your argument is garbage.

The only reason the ratio of Divine is 110 Chaos for 1 Divine is because Chaos orbs don't drop as much and they're more valuable.

It's true that if the drop rate of Divine double tomorrow, while the current drop rate of chaos stayed the same, the value of Divine would sink. However, if they raise the drop rate of divine tomorrow, they will also raise the drop rate of other currencies; which will make chaos less valuable and higher the chaos/divine ratio to roughly the same ratio we had the past leagues when they didn't nerf ALL currencies drop.

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Silverpelt#6095 wrote:

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Bosscannon#3325 wrote:

no correlation, if divines became twice as common tomorrow the chart would fall 2x and the current price or downward trend doesnt matter
the fact that you post this as proof that my cause and effect modeling is somehow flawed tells me you dont really understand whats being discusser or are pretending to be dumb to derail the flow of argument

what are you actually trying to say here? that more common divine availability increases their price against other items? are you having a fever?

Your argument is garbage.

The only reason the ratio of Divine is 110 Chaos for 1 Divine is because Chaos orbs don't drop as much and they're more valuable.

It's true that if the drop rate of Divine double tomorrow, while the current drop rate of chaos stayed the same, the value of Divine would sink. However, if they raise the drop rate of divine tomorrow, they will also raise the drop rate of other currencies; which will make chaos less valuable and higher the chaos/divine ratio to roughly the same ratio we had the past leagues when they didn't nerf ALL currencies drop.

no its your argument thats garbage because it hinges on them neccessarily increasing drop rates of other garbage in tandem with divines when I specifically and vocally stated in this thread that only the divine orb bottleneck needs to be relaxed a bit

"your argument is garbage because they will do the opposite of what you said they should do"

rofl?

nowhere did I mention there was a problem with drop rates of bubblegum currency and you are now caught in a poor quality strawmanning attempt

Well, but they won't do that, so it's unnecessary to even think about it. Perish the thought.

Also, for someone who complains so much about civility, you lack any semblance of it yourself...

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Bosscannon#3325 wrote:

no correlation, if divines became twice as common tomorrow the chart would fall 2x and the current price or downward trend doesnt matter

And do you actually believe they would actually do so? Or are you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, all edge, no point?

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Bosscannon#3325 wrote:

somehow flawed tells me you dont really understand whats being discusser or are pretending to be dumb to derail the flow of argument

The fact you're constantly implying ad hominem instead of actually arguing the point civically tells me you're not pretending, you just are.

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Bosscannon#3325 wrote:

what are you actually trying to say here? that more common divine availability increases their price against other items?

I'm saying that you're naive to think that they would solely and exclusively raise divine drop rate.

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Bosscannon#3325 wrote:

are you having a fever?

No, but i did had a mild cold this week. Thanks for asking.

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And do you actually believe they would actually do so? Or are you're just arguing for the sake or arguing, all edge, no point style?

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Well, but they won't do that, so it's unnecessary to even think about it. Perish the thought.

I am allowed to to voice my opinions and preferences freely. Op is allowed to do so too. So are you.

But you guys collectively gang up in here on people with opinions similar to mine and opoosite to yours.

You are writing essays that entirely dodge the point and constanly derail the threads trying to present your opinions and preferences as DE WEY, more correct, better for the game and borderline alingned and fused with fundamental rules of nature. And everyone who would prefer another course for the game and doesn't buy into your narrative weaving you hasten to paint as dumb and you make it known that you view yourself above your "opposition" by sneakily, enough to fly below the radar of forum mods at least, sliding passive agressive, demeaning jabs into the "debate".

You are a sneaky bunch with an agenda to defend. Not really worthy of respect or even this reply of mine.

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Also, for someone who complains so much about civility, you lack any semblance of it yourself...

You were not civil in your replies. In your very first interaction with me you immediately assumed intelectual high ground and talked down to me about me not understanding the principles of economy or some shit.

Only difference between us is that I voice my distaste for you and way you act directly while you try to pick away at people and their credibility with systematic sneaky jabs.

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Z3RoNightMare#7140 wrote:

I'm saying that you're naive to think that they would solely and exclusively raise divine drop rate.

You meant to say: I'm saying that I think you're naive to think that they would solely and exclusively raise divine drop rate.

Uhhh. Dont care. Didn't ask. I see no badge. You represent only yourself.

It probably is naive but I think its still correct to ask for it if I believe it would improve the game for me and for people that share my preferences.

"You shouldnt ask for this... because... uhhh... its not going to happen".

No, it might happen. But if I listen to your "advice" and never ask it certainly wont happen. Which I believe is your goal. Cause you want the opposite thing.