About in person trade only

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Offfit#6199 wrote:
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So, just to make sure I understand the complaint correctly because I'd hate to straw man:

The problem is that the new trading system has not been fully integrated into the old third party apps that some players use, and despite the fact that absolutely none of these apps are made by anyone who works at grinding gear games this is an issue for them to solve?

I have follow up questions, but I'm genuinely hoping that you're about to tell me I'm missing something and this isn't actually why you made this thread.



Fixpricers and bots, it's what ggg need to solve firstly, but they don't. But yeah, you missing point for sure


Okay, good. Help me out, then: what is the point? Which problem inside of the game are you having? The only complaints I saw were about problems with your apps.



Why i need to help you out? I obviously asked about in person trade function, didn't i? Why are you here?)
Last edited by Offfit#6199 on Nov 6, 2025, 10:25:09 AM
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Offfit#6199 wrote:
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So, just to make sure I understand the complaint correctly because I'd hate to straw man:

The problem is that the new trading system has not been fully integrated into the old third party apps that some players use, and despite the fact that absolutely none of these apps are made by anyone who works at grinding gear games this is an issue for them to solve?

I have follow up questions, but I'm genuinely hoping that you're about to tell me I'm missing something and this isn't actually why you made this thread.



Fixpricers and bots, it's what ggg need to solve firstly, but they don't. But yeah, you missing point for sure


They work on it but ultimately.

Not going to happen for any game to ever exist



Not sure why you think poe1 will do it



I don't think that ggg will do it and i didn't tell it, why you think that? Many devs like blizzard fought with trade problems like this
Last edited by Offfit#6199 on Nov 6, 2025, 10:29:57 AM
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Offfit#6199 wrote:

Why i need to help you out? I obviously asked about in person trade function, didn't i? Why are you here?)


I'm trying to give you the opportunity to articulate a valid criticism of whichever aspect of the game is bothering you, under the assumption that you do in fact have an issue with the game itself and not community-made apps which have not been updated by their creators to reflect an entirely new trading system.

I am here doing this because your original post completely failed to express this hypothetical complaint; your issues as expressed were with a pricechecking app (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), a website (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), and a specific version of a specific content creator's custom lootfilter (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG).

What am I missing?
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Offfit#6199 wrote:

Why i need to help you out? I obviously asked about in person trade function, didn't i? Why are you here?)


I'm trying to give you the opportunity to articulate a valid criticism of whichever aspect of the game is bothering you, under the assumption that you do in fact have an issue with the game itself and not community-made apps which have not been updated by their creators to reflect an entirely new trading system.

I am here doing this because your original post completely failed to express this hypothetical complaint; your issues as expressed were with a pricechecking app (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), a website (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), and a specific version of a specific content creator's custom lootfilter (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG).

What am I missing?



You missing whole point, cause apps connected to poe1 approximately for decade, and poe couldn't be popularised and normally be played without them, and i asked about trade part of "game" and apps too, it's what you can't understand.

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So, i want to ask some expert, especially from ggg: is there possibility to turn off this trade or make all these devices for poe1 without reading info from person trade only?


Mate, why are you here? Is it ragebait or smg?
Last edited by Offfit#6199 on Nov 6, 2025, 10:47:56 AM
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Offfit#6199 wrote:
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I'm trying to give you the opportunity to articulate a valid criticism of whichever aspect of the game is bothering you, under the assumption that you do in fact have an issue with the game itself and not community-made apps which have not been updated by their creators to reflect an entirely new trading system.

I am here doing this because your original post completely failed to express this hypothetical complaint; your issues as expressed were with a pricechecking app (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), a website (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), and a specific version of a specific content creator's custom lootfilter (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG).

What am I missing?



You missing whole point, cause apps connected to poe1 approximately for decade, and poe couldn't be popularised and normally be played without them, and i asked about trade part of "game" and apps too, it's what you can't understand.

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So, i want to ask some expert, especially from ggg: is there possibility to turn off this trade or make all these devices for poe1 without reading info from person trade only?


Mate, why are you here? Is it ragebait or smg?


So, to clarify: you are in fact complaining about the apps not being updated? Because that's what I said it sounded like in the first place, and you said "No, that's not my point." But now you've clarified your point to be... exactly what I said it was?

I feel like you're contradicting yourself here, possibly because we're too many comments deep at this point, so let's reset with a clear articulation of your position in the fewest possible words:

Are your complaints about the apps, specifically how they do not function as desired because they only incorporate the old trade system? Just a yes or a no will work, here.
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Offfit#6199 wrote:
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I'm trying to give you the opportunity to articulate a valid criticism of whichever aspect of the game is bothering you, under the assumption that you do in fact have an issue with the game itself and not community-made apps which have not been updated by their creators to reflect an entirely new trading system.

I am here doing this because your original post completely failed to express this hypothetical complaint; your issues as expressed were with a pricechecking app (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), a website (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), and a specific version of a specific content creator's custom lootfilter (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG).

What am I missing?



You missing whole point, cause apps connected to poe1 approximately for decade, and poe couldn't be popularised and normally be played without them, and i asked about trade part of "game" and apps too, it's what you can't understand.

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So, i want to ask some expert, especially from ggg: is there possibility to turn off this trade or make all these devices for poe1 without reading info from person trade only?


Mate, why are you here? Is it ragebait or smg?


So, to clarify: you are in fact complaining about the apps not being updated? Because that's what I said it sounded like in the first place, and you said "No, that's not my point." But now you've clarified your point to be... exactly what I said it was?

I feel like you're contradicting yourself here, possibly because we're too many comments deep at this point, so let's reset with a clear articulation of your position in the fewest possible words:

Are your complaints about the apps, specifically how they do not function as desired because they only incorporate the old trade system? Just a yes or a no will work, here.



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So, i want to ask some expert, especially from ggg: is there possibility to turn off this trade or make all these devices for poe1 without reading info from person trade only?



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Last edited by Offfit#6199 on Nov 6, 2025, 11:17:27 AM
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Offfit#6199 wrote:
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I'm trying to give you the opportunity to articulate a valid criticism of whichever aspect of the game is bothering you, under the assumption that you do in fact have an issue with the game itself and not community-made apps which have not been updated by their creators to reflect an entirely new trading system.

I am here doing this because your original post completely failed to express this hypothetical complaint; your issues as expressed were with a pricechecking app (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), a website (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG), and a specific version of a specific content creator's custom lootfilter (not made, endorsed, or supported by anyone at GGG).

What am I missing?



You missing whole point, cause apps connected to poe1 approximately for decade, and poe couldn't be popularised and normally be played without them, and i asked about trade part of "game" and apps too, it's what you can't understand.

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So, i want to ask some expert, especially from ggg: is there possibility to turn off this trade or make all these devices for poe1 without reading info from person trade only?


Mate, why are you here? Is it ragebait or smg?


So, to clarify: you are in fact complaining about the apps not being updated? Because that's what I said it sounded like in the first place, and you said "No, that's not my point." But now you've clarified your point to be... exactly what I said it was?

I feel like you're contradicting yourself here, possibly because we're too many comments deep at this point, so let's reset with a clear articulation of your position in the fewest possible words:

Are your complaints about the apps, specifically how they do not function as desired because they only incorporate the old trade system? Just a yes or a no will work, here.



Dude, you may know that ggg always helped app devs with advice somewhere, they offered Neversink job some time ago. You don't understand whole point. Why are you here, is it ragebait for ragebait? Are you just hate all these apps?
Last edited by Offfit#6199 on Nov 6, 2025, 11:21:16 AM
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Piousqd#0073 wrote:
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vio#1992 wrote:


1) people using external tools are always borderline cheating
2) since ggg doesn't really say what tools are allowed, using tools your're prone to lose your account
3) if you spent alot of money on the game, you can't risk a ban and so can't use any tools

=> people who like this chris' game to succeed, have to endure serious drawbacks playing it.

and poe.ninja, yeah great spoiler tool so some few can profit more from the game and it's statistics as well as everybody playing the same build 3 hours after a league started.


GGG has pretty clear guidelines on whats allowed and what isnt. If you want to handicap yourself, thats your choice, but its not a very smart one.


they have specified whats allowed but do you check all tools personally after you updated them if they only
implement allowed methods ot interferewith the game?
you have to trust the makers of these tools and the hoster of the binaries that also nobody tampered with them.

i would trust them up to a certain point of investment lost.

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example: the tool people used to disconnect the client quickly from the server on keypress downloaded a *.com file from a webpresence on first use and stored it locally. it did send a tcp_fin packet to the server which closed the connection faster than you could do that with the client.

you think it's smart to use that? hundreds of people did.
age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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Offfit#6199 wrote:
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let's reset with a clear articulation of your position in the fewest possible words:

Are your complaints about the apps, specifically how they do not function as desired because they only incorporate the old trade system? Just a yes or a no will work, here.



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So, i want to ask some expert, especially from ggg: is there possibility to turn off this trade or make all these devices for poe1 without reading info from person trade only?




So, "yes" would be your answer. Fantastic, we're finally getting somewhere! You could have just said yes in response to my first post in this thread and saved us both a lot of typing, but I won't hold that against you.

Now that you've confirmed that my initial read on the situation was correct, I'd suggest you take these complaints to the content creators responsible for the regular upkeep of the apps which have fallen short of your expectations. GGG has no possible way of controlling which publicly available information poe.ninja incorporates into their models, and the poe.ninja programmers are unlikely to see this post no matter how many times we bump it.

After all, third party applications are by definition not made by anyone at GGG.

I'm not in any way trying to silence you or say that your complaints are invalid, but if you actually want to have your concerns addressed you need to get them to the folks who are capable of fixing them. This is sort of like going to a shoe store to complain about your car breaking down, my friend.
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Offfit#6199 wrote:
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let's reset with a clear articulation of your position in the fewest possible words:

Are your complaints about the apps, specifically how they do not function as desired because they only incorporate the old trade system? Just a yes or a no will work, here.



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So, i want to ask some expert, especially from ggg: is there possibility to turn off this trade or make all these devices for poe1 without reading info from person trade only?




So, "yes" would be your answer. Fantastic, we're finally getting somewhere! You could have just said yes in response to my first post in this thread and saved us both a lot of typing, but I won't hold that against you.

Now that you've confirmed that my initial read on the situation was correct, I'd suggest you take these complaints to the content creators responsible for the regular upkeep of the apps which have fallen short of your expectations. GGG has no possible way of controlling which publicly available information poe.ninja incorporates into their models, and the poe.ninja programmers are unlikely to see this post no matter how many times we bump it.

After all, third party applications are by definition not made by anyone at GGG.

I'm not in any way trying to silence you or say that your complaints are invalid, but if you actually want to have your concerns addressed you need to get them to the folks who are capable of fixing them. This is sort of like going to a shoe store to complain about your car breaking down, my friend.




You're actually terrible at analogies. I'm more likely discussing car repairs with car enthusiasts. You should start answering questions of people, otherwise you're look like you're talking to yourself. I won't bother you anymore, dude...
Last edited by Offfit#6199 on Nov 6, 2025, 11:40:55 AM

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