We need to accept GGG targets poe 1 players/zoomers/casuals

We need to accept GGG targets poe 1 players/zoomers/casuals
and poe 2 will be stick to the poe 1 player base

there's nothing for people who really liked core gameplay of poe 1 of slower and meaningful combat and game - is just copy of poe 1 in active gameplay. Campain is trivalized and there's no difficulty if you know what are you doing - even on blue items. Game is balanced around casuals and poe 1 players who want to hold one button on bosses.
People who liked 0.1 difficulty and why poe 2 was so different as it was much harder and slower - just leaved as this game is patch by patch more casualized, fastened and power creep is so massive it's even worse than diablo 3 in difficulty at some points

so it will stick to poe 1 player base and player numbers - 0.1 will not happen again.
Last edited by saashaa#5518 on Dec 29, 2025, 6:34:38 PM
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saashaa#5518 wrote:
We need to accept GGG targets poe 1 players/zoomers/casuals
again.


That really not how it feels with 0.4

The current speed of the game is so slow and the rare augment nerf limit to 1 was so bad that I deleted the game even before the Holten Technology was discovered.

I just cannot envision it getting worse than it currently is.

It is so slow that the damage feels permanent on my end. Never have I lost completely hope for the game like now.

If nothing changes and/or 0.5 is even slower, then I will 100% accept this game is not for me and will never touch it again.

The itemization was butchered on an unseen level. Asking for it to be slower, if it has the same effect on other people that it had on me, then a lot of players will absolutely never return.

Since speed was bricked with 0.4, the price for Temporalis will only get higher.

Before most build did not feel like it needed it, but with the speed nerf, it almost feel mandatory, even with builds that makes no sense with it. I would personally use it on absolutely any class if I was playing still with the current speed of the game, yes even with minions.
Last edited by Oinkaments#6390 on Dec 29, 2025, 6:29:12 PM
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saashaa#5518 wrote:
We need to accept GGG targets poe 1 players/zoomers/casuals
again.


That really not how it feels with 0.4

The current speed of the game is so slow and the rare augment nerf was so bad that I deleted the game even before the Holten Technology was discovered.

I just cannot envision it getting worse than it currently is.

It is so slow that the damage feels permanent on my end. Never have I lost completely hope for the game like now.

If nothing changes and/or 0.5 is even slower, then I will 100% accept this game is not for me and will never touch it again.

The itemization was butchered on an unseen level. Asking for it to be slower, if it has the same effect on other people that it had on me, then a lot of players will absolutely never return.


Yeah, you are right - the game is slow. And I love it. Honestly I didn't know I would ever live to see slower PoE but here we are and it's fuckin awesome (finally).
i dont agree at all as a person that started with poe2 and went to poe1 to give it a try i cant stand it, something is just off, everything is way too simple there, i know poe1 players with constant whining will surely at some level influence ggg to make the game faster but i just hope they dont make it the same blinkfest boring gameplay
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saashaa#5518 wrote:
We need to accept GGG targets poe 1 players/zoomers/casuals
again.


That really not how it feels with 0.4

The current speed of the game is so slow and the rare augment nerf limit to 1 was so bad that I deleted the game even before the Holten Technology was discovered.

I just cannot envision it getting worse than it currently is.

It is so slow that the damage feels permanent on my end. Never have I lost completely hope for the game like now.

If nothing changes and/or 0.5 is even slower, then I will 100% accept this game is not for me and will never touch it again.

The itemization was butchered on an unseen level. Asking for it to be slower, if it has the same effect on other people that it had on me, then a lot of players will absolutely never return.

Since speed was bricked with 0.4, the price for Temporalis will only get higher.

Before most build did not feel like it needed it, but with the speed nerf, it almost feel mandatory, even with builds that makes no sense with it. I would personally use it on absolutely any class if I was playing still with the current speed of the game, yes even with minions.


it's what im saying..

it's not slow - but the casual community of zoomers like you are the most loud players - players who seek dopamine locomotive addiction and not active gameplay.
Game need to be slower and more methodical than this new-modern diablo 3 style games where you just hold one button and explode entire train - like modern brain-rot themes from youtube - the tik-tok gen..
It's faster than in 0.3. Easier - even campain is trivalized now
Last edited by saashaa#5518 on Dec 29, 2025, 6:32:22 PM
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saashaa#5518 wrote:
players who seek dopamine locomotive addiction and not active gameplay.

Game need to be slower and more methodical than this new-modern diablo 3 style games.
It's faster than in 0.3.


"It's faster than in 0.3"

You see guys, this is why nothing can be done on this forum.

If you want speed, you get called an addict and then they will gaslight you that the speed of the game is faster in 0.4 that it was in 0.3, even though speed was bricked.

To whoever still with good intents reading this, do not fall for it.
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saashaa#5518 wrote:
players who seek dopamine locomotive addiction and not active gameplay.

Game need to be slower and more methodical than this new-modern diablo 3 style games.
It's faster than in 0.3.


"It's faster than in 0.3"

You see guys, this is why nothing can be done on this forum.

If you want speed, you get called an addict and then they will gaslight you that the speed of the game is faster in 0.4 that it was in 0.3, even though speed was bricked.

To whoever still with good intents reading this, do not fall for it.


this game was promoted as slower - you don't go to buy simulation racing game and yap on forum it's to slow and not arcade. You guys are like "i can't read what im buying because it's forza it's forza it's arcade..." as metaphor..
with no listening FOR FEW YEARS ANNOUCMENTS TO BE SLOWER - imagine not reading or making any research then forcing others to listen to that yapping of wanting to change entire core idea of the game..

im playing poe 1 for 13 years and im done with this game - wanted to have something more "Active" than just same copy of the null holding one button.

and now game is like that - it's enough to hold one button and most builds works on one button gameplay. Playing somethind different is being out from trading as it's not efficent.
Last edited by saashaa#5518 on Dec 29, 2025, 6:38:54 PM
You do realize that the powerlevel of builds has been toned down since 0.1 right?

Case in point patch by patch:

0.1: Attribute stacker with 20+ attacks per second with double chaining heralds that killed everything on screen whilst moving at pace faster then current temporalis builds. Temporalis with infinite chaining choir without ICD and 0 cooldown blink without need for cast speed which meant about double blink speed compared to current form.

0.2: Temporalis build with current level of blink speed but with alot higher dmg due to choir generating energy for COC which meant you had on top of current speed multiple times the damage due to triggering 7 lvl 21 arcs whith old damage numbers (alot higher) with minimal ICD.

0.3: the patch of movement speed, 0% movement speed penalty while using skills while having 120+ - 140+ move speed.

Current patch: Temporalis builds has both ICD on choir + a need to balance cast speed + CDR due to nerfed temporalis aswell as nerfs to choir and COC nerfs. Movement speed penalty 100% not achievable without breaking your back. CDR on bosses implemented to not be able to kill them on spawn animation. Effectivness added to be able to scale difficulty for maps higher (still not enough).

Tell me where is the power creep cause what i see is a tuning down of powerlevel compared to previous patches?
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You do realize that the powerlevel of builds has been toned down since 0.1 right?

Case in point patch by patch:

0.1: Attribute stacker with 20+ attacks per second with double chaining heralds that killed everything on screen whilst moving at pace faster then current temporalis builds. Temporalis with infinite chaining choir without ICD and 0 cooldown blink without need for cast speed which meant about double blink speed compared to current form.

0.2: Temporalis build with current level of blink speed but with alot higher dmg due to choir generating energy for COC which meant you had on top of current speed multiple times the damage due to triggering 7 lvl 21 arcs whith old damage numbers (alot higher) with minimal ICD.

0.3: the patch of movement speed, 0% movement speed penalty while using skills while having 120+ - 140+ move speed.

Current patch: Temporalis builds has both ICD on choir + a need to balance cast speed + CDR due to nerfed temporalis aswell as nerfs to choir and COC nerfs. Movement speed penalty 100% not achievable without breaking your back. CDR on bosses implemented to not be able to kill them on spawn animation. Effectivness added to be able to scale difficulty for maps higher (still not enough).

Tell me where is the power creep cause what i see is a tuning down of powerlevel compared to previous patches?



that's a small, small, small part of it - while barely everyting else provides so massive power-creep _ like having many copies of support gems and many new support gems, buffed numbers on tree and new uniques, breaked entire balance in 0.3 and was mistake to allow us to wear more than 1 same support gem.
then nerfing bosses and buffing dmg on all aspects of the builds, buffing werewolf this league when it was actually so powerful


and it's visible in player-base
it's copying poe 1 numbers and will stay at this as it's just for zoomers.
Last edited by saashaa#5518 on Dec 29, 2025, 6:42:29 PM
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Tell me where is the power creep cause what i see is a tuning down of powerlevel compared to previous patches?


It will never be enough for some people, until the game is turned into Dark Souls, even though it's a complete different genre.

I have seen threads here of people wanting the game to be more tactical and much slower. And in those threads, the POE 1 player base is being described as addicts, only looking for dopamine like they are subhumans.

This obviously leads to heated exchanges but the worst is not really those ad-hominem attacks, it's truly the gaslighting that this game is somehow getting faster and catering more to "zoomers" when it really is not the case.

I literally deleted this game because the butchering of itemization and the hammer bricking of speed and I'm being told that 0.4 is faster than 0.3.

I just want anyone rational reading this, that enjoys fast pacing, that they should not lose their temper exchanging on this topic as it is clearly an attempt to make people lose control.
Last edited by Oinkaments#6390 on Dec 29, 2025, 6:48:21 PM

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