GGG should Nerf Team Farm, or open the soloplayer-trade mode.

ggg doesn`t care man.
they think that`s cool and that`s all.

agree, rewards for group play should get nerfed.

good idea

I have never seen such a big consensus in this forums.

I find 0 reason why party play should have any bonuses to drop rates.

Party game already comes with inherent easier game due to playing with people + cheaper maps because you juice once for a total of 6 people. On top of bonus drops?

They should be completely removed and party will still be the strongest and most profitable by a mile, simply because a solo player has to give 6times more currency to juice a map that they get to split up.

Biggest issue for me is that party play is not even fun. You see nothing, you have less than 1% interaction with other people, its just a mess. With the exception of a low % of players playing with aura bot, nobody would want to play party if it wasnt profitable.

Group rewards are fine. If partying gives you nothing, nobody parties. Then trade league becomes "everyone plays alone, together", and we can all enjoy the thrilling endgame of staring at our own feet in six different instances.

The problem is not "two friends having fun". The problem is abusing group scaling with bots, multi-account nonsense, and leech squads whose main contribution is existing. So yeah, solve that. Don't torch group play because some people are running a 6-man "party" where 5 members are basically kitchen appliances.

If you want to rein it in, make group play cost time. Monster damage does not need to spike (nobody wants more random one-shots), but monster health should scale much harder so parties are not just deleting the map instantly. Keep it simple
2 players means about 2x monster life, 6 players means about 6x. Want extra rewards, sign up for extra work.

And yes, groups will still have advantages. Auras, curses, dedicated debuffers, someone pumping DPS. That is literally what group play is. Coordination. If you're worried about the ARPG vs MMORPG line, then lean into it in a controlled way. Add actual dungeons or "raid-ish" content where teamwork matters, instead of the current meta where one guy plays the game and the rest inflate the numbers.

As for "solo trade league", SSF already exists. We already split Standard and League into normal, hardcore, and SSF. Do we really want to keep slicing the playerbase thinner until it's eight servers and the only populated zone is your hideout?

Fix abuse. Fix scaling. Don't delete party play because some people are abusing it.

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Jyrlep#4788 wrote:

Group rewards are fine. If partying gives you nothing, nobody parties. Then trade league becomes "everyone plays alone, together", and we can all enjoy the thrilling endgame of staring at our own feet in six different instances.

I was going to say unpopular opinion but judging by this thread, I think the vast majority of the players will never even care that party play is gone.

I have more than 10-15 friends playing every league. Nobody parties. Its not fun, its annoying. Its 200 things happening on your screen times 6. It brings no value to the game. There is no synergy aside from a passive aura bot. POE is not a party game, thats sadly the truth. The only people who party are there to build wealth or to run the unique maps required to get the atlas points in POE1 to save up on time. Thats all.

The game mode itself is entirely antiparty. Theres 0 improvement to gameplay to play with party. Its self hinder. So currently, no party would be better than having the party option unplayable and just "abusive" to farm insane currency amounts.

I also don't understand why GGG doesn't do anything with teamfarm. and I'm pretty sure that more than half of these groups are RMT (several streamers for sure, I've seen a couple times where huge amounts of currency disappear between streams)

in fact, so far I see only one way out - SSF. But it takes a lot more time to do everything you want

GGG will do the obvious here and nerf solo play lmao

YOU SEE?GGG!!!!!!!!!