0.11.0 Patch Notes

After reading the patch notes I've lost all my motivation to play the game.

Things GGG doesn't understand:

1) The reasons why melee is so unpopular are as follows:

i) Active melee skills suck even without comparing them to range or spell skills. They suck not because, although in most cases this is also the case, the damage is too low. Can the melee skill do what its counterpart has to offer? Like Heavy strike with knockback, surely it's so damn useful because the mobs have just been knocked back into the wall and bugged. The ones that 'shine' amongst the lot but still a very bad skill is lightning strike. Cleave is probably the only viable one at the moment. So are we gonna have melee characters who are all cleavers now?

ii) Active melee skills are not fun. Most of them are not fun to use at all. There is no fun factor in using it. Lightning strike again is probably one of the very few skills that can potentially be fun but is not good in practice.

iii) Melee support gems suck. Whenever GGG invents a new gem for melee their fear of it becoming overpowered makes the applicable penalty too large to swallow. Look at multistrike, for example. Tweaking numbers don't necessarily help. What we need is new ideas.

iv) Gear requirements are too high for melee. Having a good weapon is extremely important if you play a melee. If you're a casual fucker like I am you'll never be able to build a melee character properly without playing 24/7. Physical damage and armour are buffed? Do you have the exalts to buy/craft those gears? If not then you'd probably better off playing a range or caster.

v) Low survivability. Melee characters have low survivability. To compensate it instead of boosting their survivability significantly GGG opted to increase their physical damage. But how you can deal sustained damage when you're dead already? Ranges can be just as tanky if not tankier than melee and they always have the advantage of being out of range.

vi) Desync. Not sure if you've ever experienced the moment when you try to hit a mob in front of you on your screen but nothing happens? It's not even funny at all when that hit means life or death. Pointing out the fact that the desync code and servers are not perfect wouldn't make players go melee because they somehow sympathise with you.

vii) Physical damage too scarce on all kinds of items. Compared to elemental damage physical damage mod is pretty much non-existent for all practical purposes on gears. Those that do have it have a huge penalty which doesn't apply in the case of elemental damage - bias?

viii) [Insert whatever you want]


No matter how much effort you guys in GGG have put into nerfing range and caster skills, it wouldn't stop people using them because there's no real alternative! You're not solving the problems. The problems are still there. It's an error of judgement in my opinion to nerf range and caster skills in an attempt to make melee more popular. What we've got left here now is that all the skills are just as shitty as each other.

Instead of nerfing the damage of some skill gems, how about nerfing the items that directly give them their overpoweredness? Don't know which version of the game you guys are playing in but in my version FP, EK, etc are so shit without all the proper gears, gems and links. The ones who will be disadvantaged are those new players who don't have all of those.

Bear in mind also that not everyone who plays PoE has godly gears like Kripp and other streamers. You can't base your 'balancing' act on those guys. We, the ordinary gamers, are the ones who ultimately suffer.

There're still a lot of things that I wanna address, but I think I should leave it to a different post.

I thought this game had a more mature audience than Diablo 3, but it seems I was wrong. When something gets nerfed (rebalanced), ppl scream that their character is ruined and "I quit". Jesus christ, learn to adapt and overcome, that's half the fun with games like this!

When 90% of the people plays one out of four builds cause they are OP, ofcourse they get rebalanced. Isn't it more fun to have a lot more choices ?

Also, the game is still in beta and it's FREE to play. So you are entiteled to exactly nothing.

So my Marauder's Life RF build is now broken... Good thing I don't play him anymore, but what if I wanted to? >_<

Inner Force is now useless, I don't really care, was barely worth it before..

But WHY ISN'T ELDRICH BATTERY BUFFED?! With the reduction of ES% Nodes, it'll be impossible to reach the level of Mana we could previously. Thus making the use of Level 10 Arctic Armor, not even max level as that is a lofty heighty IMPOSSIBLE!

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Freemasonary wrote:

After reading the patch notes I've lost all my motivation to play the game.

Things GGG doesn't understand:

1) The reasons why melee is so unpopular are as follows:

i) Active melee skills suck even without comparing them to range or spell skills. The ones that 'shine' amongst the lot but still a very bad skill is lightning strike.

ii) Active melee skills are not fun. Most of them are not fun to use at all. There is no fun factor in using it. Lightning strike again is probably one of the very few skills that can potentially be fun but is not good in practice.

iii) Melee support gems suck. Whenever GGG invents a new gem for melee their fear of it becoming overpowered makes the applicable penalty too large to swallow. Look at multistrike, for example.

iv) Gear requirements are very high for melee. Having a good weapon is extremely important if you play a melee. If you're a casual fucker like I am you'll never be able to build a melee character properly without playing 24/7.

v) Low survivability. Melee characters have low survivability. To compensate it instead of boosting their survivability significantly GGG opted to increase their physical damage. But how you can deal sustained damage when you're dead already?

vi) Desync. Not sure if you've ever experienced the moment when you try to hit a mob in front of you on your screen but nothing happens? It's not even funny at all.

vii) Physical damage too scarce on items. Compared to elemental damage physical damage mod is pretty much non-existent for all practical purposes on gears.

viii) [Insert whatever you want]


No matter how much effort you guys in GGG have put into nerfing range and caster skills, it wouldn't stop people using them because there's no real alternative! You're not solving problems. The problems are still there. It's an error of judgement in my opinion to nerf range and caster skills in an attempt to make melee more popular. What we've got left here now is that all the skills are just as shitty as each other.

Bear in mind also that not everyone who plays PoE has godly gears like Kripp and other streamers. You can't base your 'balancing' act on those guys. We, the ordinary gamers, are the ones who ultimately suffer.

There're still a lot of things that I wanna address, but I think I should leave it to a different post.

can we please sticky this?

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Freemasonary wrote:

After reading the patch notes I've lost all my motivation to play the game.



v) Low survivability. Melee characters have low survivability. To compensate it instead of boosting their survivability significantly GGG opted to increase their physical damage. But how you can deal sustained damage when you're dead already?

except the fact that armor is better now and therefore melee has more survivability



oh and offensive power is a form of survivability, which melee just got a boost in




and monsters do less damage



and melee nodes got buffed




so

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narg62 wrote:

Look at you Tyrone! I did incite something. You even posted a video!

I can't believe you're still typing :)

I posted that video two weeks ago. You accused me of lying so I showed you that what I said was the truth. You are a human being, you are capable of intelligent thought. So think and rebut the points I've made, rather than making childish remarks. However, seeing how you've been posting thus far, I expect that you will make just another simpleminded reply intended to push the focus away from yourself.

Nice patch.

As a level 80 FP'er and minion user, I don't have any issue with this rebalancing.

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Fixed a bug where items would sometimes not drop from monsters killed by Fire Trap.

Wait, was that reason why i run faster out of maps on my FT Templar?

nice read @patch notes. looking forward to test the changes and the new leagues!

so im assuming that templar wander like power syphon build are dead now