Queen Atziri vs. Summoners

Do you think that Summoners have any chance in hell to beat Queen Atziri? discuss-


IMO i don't think they stand a chance at all from what ive seen of videos on Queen Atziri fights. but would like to know if any Summoners have tried and what the out comes have been.

Even though I abandoned my summoner Witch long time ago and despite having played fair amount of 74+ maps I just can't see how a summoner could realistically defeat her. Atziri in her current state is pretty much the same like Piety or Dominus were pre 1.0.6 patch when attempting any spell-caster type boss with ability to spam high damaging spells would wipe out your entire army. Evangelist were an efficient work-around for those encounters due to nullifying direct damage but Flameblast is a non-target aoe type of damage so it ignores Proximity Shield.

Not a chance. Atziri - maybe proximity works but i think it doesn't. The bigger problem will be that ground bleed effect during 3 boss fight before her and evangelists wont be of any help there every summon will just get anihilated.

I seriously dont know why lightning warp doesn't teleport minions too, if not by default then add support that would allow it.

enemy evas block your flameblast, so I don't see why ours wouldn't block atziri's

but no, we don't stand a chance. summoner is mostly about overpowering enemies with your army. and watching standard core 3k+ ex geared 9k hp players fight her.............you're not overpowering her with any summon, which leaves you with dps skels as your offense option

Yes summoner can kill Queen Atziri and even Uber one.

Build: http://web.poe.garena.com/forum/view-thread/392

This is from Garena Server of Poe in Singapore/Malaysia

Its already been done before, apparently undying evangelists take no damage through their bubbles from Atziri. So summoners are probably one of the better builds to use.

There have been successful Atziri kills using summoners (pretty sure a Google search would bring you to the threads, I'm too lazy to dig them up myself).

Why else would Willy attempt Apex of Sacrifice with a summoner build?

Sorry for digging this thread out.
I don't know whether doing Normal Atziri without snapshooting with summoner is still an issue, but as I manage (somehow) do it twice today I would like to raise this discussion.

Both runs were very chaotic due to lack of experience with this instance and adrenaline rush.
Died or ported out few times in each run to re-summon minions. I really struggle with Trio, especially when adds start spowning. Final fight was much easier and could be done without losing any minion but I make few mistakes, such a fighting wrong Atziri copy or having convocation on cooldown when double flameblast is casted.

Auras used:
Purity of Fire
Purity of Lightninig
Purity of Ice (droped in final fight to have enough manna to summon zombies)
Hatred
Discipline
Vitality
Grace
Haste

Zombies (lv21) was linked with:
-Faster Attacks
-Mulitstrike
-Melee Physical Damage
-Melee Splash (could be replaced with Empower for final fight)
-Culling Strike

Undying Evangelists linked with:
-Increase AoE
-Increase Duration
-Spell Echo

Still trying to get 4R-1B-1G on armour to replace Culling Strike with Empower lv3 which will increase damage and survivability.

Gear used:





I tried to make same build in 1.2 passive tree and overall we will receive nice boost.
I've gained 1100 ES, dual curse, 100% curse duration and increased ES recovery. Running 8 auras still will be possible.
Can't wait to try it out after patch.

The problem is a non-Shav summoner might have a lot of trouble. ES is gets improved, but a CI-Summoner might lack defenses due to not having so many Auras avaible. And it is also quite hard to summon that many Spectres, since Midnight Bargain is also off limits, so only Bones and Queens Degree, maybe Vis Mortis but that would limit ES a lot again and Queens Degree is propably the better option since it gives Zombies and Spectres and a bit more Life.

Normal Atziri should be doable even with a Life-Summoner but I'm not sure about Uber, actually the Trio is the problem, not so much Atziri. If you manage to not let her heal even if you lose your Spectres, just resummon zombies (with Empower in a +2 Helmet they actually survive the flameblast). Although you can run a 6l Queens Degree and a 6l Chest (it doesn't really matter which one, at best of course a corrupted +1 Chest) and Spectres in Gloves that way you can use a 6l Skeletotem in addition for the Atziri-Fight giving you more damage in case the spectres die. If you give them Faster Attacks you can also just put leapslam in there to get out of Flameblast quickly.

But I'm not really sure if Uber is beatable as a non-LL summoner and the people I see doing her are normally Lowlife Summoners, with Shavs.

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Zombies (lv21) was linked with:
-Faster Attacks
-Mulitstrike
-Melee Physical Damage
-Melee Splash (could be replaced with Empower for final fight)
-Culling Strike

My suggestion would be replacing Melee Splash with Empower and Culling Strike with Blind. The damage boost from Culling Strike is fairly low, but I assume Blinding the trio could be huge, although you could propably just wear them down while evading their attacks. But I find Blind to be incredible powerful for minions due to them having a lot of Attacks (10 Zombies with Multistrike and Faster Attacks I assume).

I have to agree with non-Shav part, I've tried Atziri few months ago and couldn't get to final fight.
Took your advice and replaced Splash and Culling with Empower + Blind. Blind somehow doesn't work that well on Trio, minions get wiped 4 times vs cyclone guy leaving me 2 portals for Atziri fight, which went quiet smooth. Also, clearing trash without Melee Splash is awful slow plus some adds get to Atziri in healing phase.