A couple of examples of how the economy is already getting screwed for the majority of players
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Example 1 - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/82318/page/1
A top end item goes for 91 gcp after a week, with someone else bidding 14 exalts on it. Really? There is no way that multiple people could realistically achieve that kind of wealth after a week by just playing the game. Maybe they found 4 exalts already and had 10 friends give them one, or maybe they found 14 noobs with no idea what an exalt was worth to sell a spell totem or lmp gem to. Or maybe they just acquired all their wealth on d2jsp? I know which one is more likely. If people want to use d2jsp that's up to them, but it's completely screwing the economy for people that don't use it. How would a non user be able to compete with that kind of spending power now? And if that's the price of a top end item after a week, what will it be after a month? Example 2 - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/84559/page/1 This person is multiboxing not botting so it's ok? But the reason their characters are level 35 is that is the level needed to enter merciless, this person is not multiboxing for fun, or to see what they achieve but purely for profit. Their motive pure and simple is to exploit the group party bonus by boosting their characters to 35 and through all the quests in the game, they can then summon them into a high level zone or map to exploit the party bonus. Even if GGG were to fix the party bonus so that you had to be close to other players to receive the bonus it wouldn't matter since they just multibox their characters up to a high level and have them on follow around the zone. In conclusion you better multibox or use d2jsp if you want a snowball's chance of hell of matching other people's spending power, even if you play legit 24/7 you won't be able to do it. I guess that leagues, especially the shorter ones where trading stuff will cost you too much time are a partial solution. People predicted default ending up with inflation problems but at this rare rampant inflation is going to happen far far sooner than anyone thought. It will also happen to hardcore pretty quickly. Last edited by PennyPincher#2116 on Jan 30, 2013, 5:18:33 AM
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" Solution: see example 1 & 2. Considering these things are apparently OK to do, why not do them yourself if you feel left out? I personally don't, cause I barely trade. I use self-found gear pretty much exclusively. But if you feel left out, why not go ahead? Would anybody like some... POUNDCAKE?
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I don't understand what's the fuss about d2jsp. Heard about it a few times, checked it quickly, it's a trading forum... Can anyone explain me how does it give more trading power?
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" People have a lot of 'forum gold' saved up from D2/D3 and other games, so now that PoE is open, they have a lot of wealth to spend already; that's not even part of this game. |
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" you pay real money for it... Things with "increased" and "decreased" in the tooltip are additive ... where as "More" or "Less" are multiplicative ...
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" That is a problem then. Agreed. |
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First off, there's no evidence that 91gcp was definitely from d2jsp. It's 100% possible for a small group of people that have been playing for a week and trading while prices are still in flux to get that kind of wealth (and more). I highly suggest we stop talking about d2jsp in this thread.
Secondly, multiboxing is a concern (albeit a small one) for a free to play game, but it's not against any rules and the details of party experience and loot have been changed in the past and will likely be changed in the future. |
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" A bit naive I think, but why should people not discuss something that is going to potentially cause harm to the game? The amount of people that have never heard of that site is tiny and there have been threads discussing the implications of it before. |
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" Im sorry, I highly HIGHLY doubt your first idea, especially given that I WENT to that site and trust me, Exalted and GCPs are already selling like hotcakes. No, This site, considering the game uses a barter system is really gonna feel the weight from d2jsp users. Its effectively an RMAH for the game, if i wanted to I could buy 5 gcp for cheap right now, But I wont. I mean something like this could really harm the economy, to a point were it could become 1. Use thier site to keep up with the economy 2. Pray you find jackpot items(you know, the lovely d3 theory) as currency damn near becomes worthless thanks to a site you can just buy it all from. As per multiboxing, we need a word from devs on that. If its allowed, not much we can do, if it isnt than ready the ban hammer. End of story here Last edited by darkcrab#5371 on Jan 30, 2013, 6:01:00 AM
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Hm, ok, didn't see the part about d2jsp where you could just buy forum gold, that's indeed a problem.
Altho I doubt GGG can do much about 3rd party websites. D2 had its fair share of problems with RMT back in the days, too. Last edited by XDementia#6681 on Jan 30, 2013, 6:03:58 AM
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