[3.0] Siege Ballist - Guardians down



Hello there!

++++Prologue++++

For a while i thinking about "what i want to play this league?"
And most of builds that i saw was about VP, Attack Speed or Dark Pact.
I started league with my EQ jugg but this build cant takedown T16. Even T15 core was damn hard.

So watchimg some builds i came across something that interested me - multiple Siege ballistas.
I think this is not a guide becuase im still newbie for PoE. Its about my experience of playing that build.

+++Pros+++

+Solid clear speed;
+Cheap - the most expensive thing - 6L chest;
+Pretty safe play style;
+99% map mods available - only "no mana ragen" mod is very crucial;
+Our ballistas is reflection_proof (not at all but you dont care how many ballistas will kill themselvs);
+While ballistas do all dirty job you can run around and flip rocks and open chests.

+++Cons+++

-No sustain. No life regen or life leech (either i am too stupid to get some);
-Not tanky. I have 4,5k HP, 50% evasion, ~40-50% dodges;
-Guardians\Shaper can be too long to takedown
-Mana. I read few guides about that build and nobody say about mana. Your ballistas are gonna die at T15-16 maps REALLY fast. You always need to replace them.
Single ballista cost like 50MP (6L). If your regen less than 50\sec... Well you know the math

+++Middle+++

=I really like this playstyle. I hate summons but the need to constantly use SB is nice. Pretty dinamic. Also you need to think (not so much but still) where to put SB.

Video
Minotaur - 1 death
Chimera - deathless
Phoenix - 1 stupid death
-Hydra down, video will be later
-Shaper still not down. Too many deaths becuase of mechanics. I never tried shaper before so it is pretty hard. Best try ~15%HP left

Stats

You can import my raider to PoB - account open (PrimarchFerrus)
Keep in mind to check SB link in pob and use best for single target. Also i have 3 auras but use only 2 of them so dont miss it too.

Click

Frenzy charges - ON
Power charges - ON
Distance 0-10
Shock - ON


So it is like 100-160K dps per 1 ballista. I run 6 of them. Its around 600-900K DPS on papper.
Not so big like other builds 18 BILLIONS OF BILLIONS DAMAGER PER MICROSECOND! But i like it.



Tree,Bandits,Ascendancy

Tree
For now i want 93 lvl to pickup Force of Nature. Whole node will give ~12% DPS (160K->180K)

Bandits - Kill all

Ascendancy - no surprises for raider:Avatar of the Slaughter, Avatar of the Veil.

Gems

For 6 link:

1. Siege Ballista
2. Add Cold Damage Support
3. Add Lighting Damage Support
4. Elemental Damage with Attacks Support
5. Damage on Full Life Support
6. Slower Projectiles Support (for single)/Lesser Multiple Projectiles Support (for clean)
Comment:
Damage on full like is a great support for SB becuase it checks your HP (not ballistas).
You can use Elemental Focus instead of SPS but i prefer elemental status like shock and freez.

5-6 link for attack:
1. Frenzy
2. Greater Multiple Projectiles Support
3. Power Charge on Crit Support
4. Curse on Hit Support
5. Elemental Weakness
As a 6L you can add Increased Critical Strikes Support
Comment:
Elemental damage... So elemental weakness. Easy.

Auras
1. Vaal Haste
2. Summon Ice Golem
3. Herald of Ice (optional while running low lvl maps)
4. Wrath
5. Clarity
Comment:
Even with Clarity[13 level] and 2 mana regen nods i only have 60 mana regen per second. And this is comfortable for guardians.

Other
1. Blink Arrow
2. Decoy Totem
Comment:
Decoy totem is good vs bosses. It will keep your ballistas alive for few extra seconds. Also you can manage to direct some bosses abilities. Like Minotaur slam or charge.

Gear

Well it is pretty simple. For your build you only need:


Other uniques that good for build:


Do not pay attantion on ench and gems, just for item link.

For helm ench you want ANY of Siege Ballista ench. Really. Damage is a bit higher dps than attack speed, but totem placment really good becuase you spend less time to stand at one place. Run! Run for you live! (and dont forget to spam totems)

Total recomendation:
Try to use gear with flat Dex on it. My next stop is 800 dex for 7 ballistas. I dont want to use Fluid Motion in all slots just only to have 1 extra ballista. Because on papper they are good but in real situation you wont have more than 4-5 active at one time.

Jewels

If you need a bit extra Dex for new one ballista. This mean if you just reach 400 dex dont use fluid in all sockets. It wont give you extra 200 dex.
Other jewels just totem damage, life and attack speed.

Help?

I need help :)
I think build can do a bit more damage or survivability but i cant figure it out.
May be some extra uniques that i missing or nodes? Idk.
If you have some useful comment about improvment - your are welcome!


Thanks for reading and watching! Hope you enjoy this.
Last edited by PrimarchFerrus#5908 on Oct 2, 2017, 4:10:45 PM
Last bumped on Oct 3, 2017, 12:31:17 AM
Hello,

I am not trying to make your build idea bad, just posting facts and my experience.

Siege Ballista Damage in general is to weak, cause GGG doesnt care and clear speed against bosses before 3.0, was allready bad. You needed really high end gear to make at least some good damage.

Chieftain Siege Ballista is the best Build since 2.5. The Totems are fire damage immun and leech life for you and with the xoph amulet you can even make them never die to reflect.

All the good information(items and everything) about siege ballista, you will find here, if you read through all the pages: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1649328

Ive played alot siege ballista in 2.5 and can you show you my old gear, if you like.

Ive watched your Minotaur kill and it is just to slow. I mean slow for Siege Ballista and not compared to other skills. The Problem is Iron commander and squirmish doesnt give damage to your single ballista.

You want hard hitting Siege Ballista for bosses(1 shot alot damage) and more attack speed, which squirmish doesnt give you.

Why are you not using any unique flasks for more damage ?
Last edited by Kharadas#5625 on Oct 2, 2017, 9:30:02 PM
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Kharadas wrote:

Siege Ballista Damage in general is to weak, cause GGG doesnt care and clear speed against bosses before 3.0, was allready bad. You needed really high end gear to make at least some good damage.

Thanks for answer.
So i need to change Iron Commander to smth useful?
Like what?

I dont use unique flask because i dont know what is better :)
Some of them cost like 100+c and improves dps just for 1-5%.
And i use one btw.
Also i uave no sustain so i need those 2 HP flask.

About chieftain. He is really good but i think i have no will to leveling once more time.
Some people on reddit telling me that deadeye is better.
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Kharadas wrote:

Ive watched your Minotaur kill and it is just to slow. I mean slow for Siege Ballista and not compared to other skills. The Problem is Iron commander and squirmish doesnt give damage to your single ballista.

Yeah. This kill like 2 or 3 so i still learning.
The best try i guess was about 3-4 min (just capture only this).
Last edited by PrimarchFerrus#5908 on Oct 3, 2017, 1:14:03 AM

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