What this ascendancy bonus exactly gives?

Is this a nerf?
Last bumped on Jul 21, 2024, 7:10:55 AM
At a guess, there are shields with 25% (or less i think) shield block chance, this passive makes it 30% regardless (would also mean that if there is one above 30% it would be reduced down to 30%)
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Last edited by lagwin1980 on Jul 19, 2024, 3:20:45 PM
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lagwin1980 wrote:
At a guess, there are shields with 25% (or less i think) shield block chance, this passive makes it 30% regardless (would also mean that if there is one above 30% it would be reduced down to 30%)


Guess i understand now, it will just give us 50% block instead of whatever numbers there are on shield.
Last edited by Jestenis on Jul 19, 2024, 3:44:31 PM
i only half glanced at the pic, thought it said 30%

If it is 50% the previous statement is likely wrong.
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its if your shields block value is <50 then it = 50. (I don't think a shield exists with 50 block out the gate anyway)

quite strong overall, great block out the gate makes it easy to use versatile combatants buffed version and not needing a block mod on your shield can be replaced with something more valuable.
Yeah 50% base block would be very large and save quite a bit of investment.

You have to take the preceding asc passive and both the small nodes give +3% block so now you're up to 56%.

You can also get 20% atk speed from the ascendancy, provided they don't nerf it prior to league start.

Gues I'll start with shield crush/retaliation Glad. Seems fun
Last edited by Glorfndel01 on Jul 19, 2024, 5:15:10 PM
Block gladiator will most likely be one of the tankiest characters this league. Getting 50 percent lucky Block with 4 ascendency points even before considering the block accessibility and numerical buffs on the passive tree as huge
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Draegnarrr wrote:
its if your shields block value is <50 then it = 50. (I don't think a shield exists with 50 block out the gate anyway)

quite strong overall, great block out the gate makes it easy to use versatile combatants buffed version and not needing a block mod on your shield can be replaced with something more valuable.


I read it as: Your minimum chance to block is 50% while a shield is equipped - but unless you reach MORE than 50% through modifiers, these 50% won't be affected by any modifiers.

So if shield block + other modifiers of block chance <= 50%, block = 50%
If shield block + other modifiers to block >=50%, block = sum of shield block + modifiers.
But never: Block chance from Determined Survivor + Modifiers to block chance from other sources.
So an easy way to get 50% but still not a gratis max block.
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@Mikrotherion

I don't read it like you.

I think shield is treated as if it has 50% block chance.
Which would be a 20-25% extra block bonus.
Even shields with more than 30% block rate are rare today.

There was a passive? in the tree (or in a ascendancy?) which gaves a bonus if you had a shield with more than 30%, but I cant't find it quickly.
Last edited by Jerexil on Jul 20, 2024, 9:20:39 AM
I read it as "whatever the number at the top of the shield is, you get 50% block instead."

Crafted shields with 15% spell block should give you 50% block and 15% spell block on gladiator. Pretty sweet. I think every glad will just take Versatile Combatant instead since getting regular block chance is so easy now.

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