Favorite Maps for Favorite Strats - 3.25 Survey

What are your favorite maps to run for your favorite Atlas strategies?


Guidelines:
-Make sure to list the map w/ any special map changes(deli orb/8-mod/etc)
-Scry used, if any
-Atlas strat used. POE planner link optional
-Pros/Cons of map, as it relates to your strat



Mine are currently:

Map- City Square, T16 8-mod
Scry- Defiled Cathedral
Strat- Harbinger w/ Shrines + Ritual
Pro- Semi-open layout, easy boss rush, no boss phases, narrow spawn zones for harbingers, drops Sanctuary T17
Con- bad natural div cards,

Map- Sanctuary, T17 w/ deli orb
Scry- N/A
Strat- 8-mod corrupted, bloodlines/wisp'd scarab
Pro- best mob density, good boss fragments, drops from T16 maps with good layouts
Con- boss phases, 2nd phase dangerous with bad mods/shrines, not easy to boss rush

Open to Suggestions

Currently looking new maps/strats to stay engaged

Incursion Temples:
-Strand?
-Beach?
-Racecourse?





“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
Last bumped on Sep 27, 2024, 1:23:11 PM
I'll share three of my strategies from this league.

Deli mirrors
Scarabs: 1x Mania 4x Paranoia
Map device: Domination
Map: Strand - roll as easy as possible without chisels just for some packsize.
Loot: Lots of delirium orbs and gum.
Pro: Quick, easy, very consistant, low investment, high returns.
Con: Almost no big ticket items.
Atlas:


Risky Twist of Fate Conquerers
Scarabs: 1x Escalation 3x Risk 1x Conversion / 1x Escalation 4x Risk
Map device: 8% quant
Map: Any rare corrupted conquerer map sets + invitations, mods on maps don't matter because of Twist of Fate, only kill what is on the way to the boss.
Loot: Maven chisels, Maven's Writs, conq. exalts, conflicts, T17s.
Pro: Constant tinks.
Con: Only doable with some builds as the maps have up to 12 random mods, high loot variance.
Atlas:


Bloodlines & Wisps in T17
Scarabs: 1x Bloodlines 1x Lineage 2x Wisps 1x Hordes
Map device: Domination
Map: Any T17 but not Citadel + deli orbs, roll for 4-5 packsize, currency, scarab modifiers and add Maven chisels to balance it out.
Loot: Divines, Valdo Boxes, expensive scarabs.
Pro: Constant tinks, high gold.
Con: High investment, needs lots of time to prep maps.
Atlas:

Last edited by Scarletsword on Sep 27, 2024, 11:20:22 AM
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Scarletsword wrote:
I'll share three of my strategies from this league.

Deli mirrors
Scarabs: 1x Mania 4x Paranoia
Map device: Domination
Map: Strand - roll as easy as possible without chisels just for some packsize.
Loot: Lots of delirium orbs and gum.
Pro: Quick, easy, very consistant, low investment, high returns.
Con: Almost no big ticket items.
Atlas:


Risky Twist of Fate Conquerers
Scarabs: 1x Escalation 3x Risk 1x Conversion / 1x Escalation 4x Risk
Map device: 8% quant
Map: Any rare corrupted conquerer map sets + invitations, mods on maps don't matter because of Twist of Fate, only kill what is on the way to the boss.
Loot: Maven chisels, Maven's Writs, conq. exalts, conflicts, T17s.
Pro: Constant tinks.
Con: Only doable with some builds as the maps have up to 12 random mods, high loot variance.
Atlas:


Bloodlines & Wisps in T17
Scarabs: 1x Bloodlines 1x Lineage 2x Wisps 1x Hordes
Map device: Domination
Map: Any T17 but not Citadel + deli orbs, roll for 4-5 packsize, currency, scarab modifiers and add Maven chisels to balance it out.
Loot: Divines, Valdo Boxes, expensive scarabs.
Pro: Constant tinks, high gold.
Con: High investment, needs lots of time to prep maps.
Atlas:



Love the hidden atlas picture structure. Bloodlines / Wisp is my fav strat of the end league so far. Are you still using it? With the popularity and price of bloodlines/wisp going up, I have been experimenting with swapping to glittering/nemesis, but right now it only seems worth it if you have the antagonist mob rolled on the map.
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
I'm still using all three of them as filler in between Valdos when the market for Valdos is slow like it is right now.

Bloodlines/Wisps is a very consistant 3-4d/map profit for me at current prices. I don't roll for antagonist or anything like that. I use a regex for 50%packsize ("iz.*([5-9].|1..)%"), roll until I get high %scarab + %currency which takes maybe 10-15c, add maven chisels for the lowest value of those three and follow with 80% deli.
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Scarletsword wrote:
I'm still using all three of them as filler in between Valdos when the market for Valdos is slow like it is right now.

Bloodlines/Wisps is a very consistant 3-4d/map profit for me at current prices. I don't roll for antagonist or anything like that. I use a regex for 50%packsize ("iz.*([5-9].|1..)%"), roll until I get high %scarab + %currency which takes maybe 10-15c, add maven chisels for the lowest value of those three and follow with 80% deli.



Nice. I do similar, but only maven's chisel and extra deli select maps. Have you noticed a large increase in drops between 20-80% deli? I know deli gives a quant boost, but haven't seen any hard numbers on how much is scales with increasing the deli amount.
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
I haven't played it with lower deli so I wouldn't be able to tell. The only thing I can say is that 100 deli is never worth it as maps that have a wildwood spawn simply take too long for my build anyway.
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Scarletsword wrote:
I haven't played it with lower deli so I wouldn't be able to tell. The only thing I can say is that 100 deli is never worth it as maps that have a wildwood spawn simply take too long for my build anyway.



Yea, that makes sense.

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Delirium#Scaling

In case you are curious about the scaling, these are the best estimate numbers I have found, based on Prohibited Library research.


The conflict for me if figuring out if the increased quant/rarity outweighs the chance I brick the boss for the map. I've been running sanctuary, and I use a pretty loose regex for map mods. The beyond boss phase really messes me up if I get a bad mod combo and cant nuke her down quick.

“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
Last edited by Piousqd on Sep 27, 2024, 12:46:13 PM
I know about the scaling on paper but it's still difficult to say how much of a difference deli actually makes. If I had to guess I'd say it makes a noticeable difference but not enough to make 80%+ mandatory.

Bricking maps on the other hand is never worth it imo not just because of the loot but also because it can be demotivating.
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Scarletsword wrote:
I know about the scaling on paper but it's still difficult to say how much of a difference deli actually makes. If I had to guess I'd say it makes a noticeable difference but not enough to make 80%+ mandatory.

Bricking maps on the other hand is never worth it imo not just because of the loot but also because it can be demotivating.


Doesn't take a ton of loot to negate the loss of boss fragment drops, but very good point about the motivation factor.



“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”

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