Make CI RF possible

Currencly CI is not possible with RF because both gems don't allow it, the effect ends at 1 life.
Instead of ending at 1 life it could be 1 life AND 1 es.
This little change would allow it to work with CI and I don't think it would bother anybody or brick any current RF builds.
For an ES RF build it would mean alot to not have to use "chaos damage taken does not bypass es while not on low life" and instead go CI with 50% global defense twilight regalia and not having to get any chaos res either.
Last edited by demon7310#6336 on Oct 15, 2024, 4:29:31 PM
Last bumped on Oct 21, 2024, 1:26:08 PM
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but why? ES RF can be played with ivory tower and that coruscanting flask or whatever it's called. There's also Mana RF. You can scale RF in any way you like.

CI never worked with RF, it works with other builds.
If you reserve mana and use ivory tower you can die to chaos damage, coruscating flask is a SC item for me I would never consider it at all.
The whole reason that it doesn't works is why I'm asking for it to be a possibility to enable more alternatives.
Functionally it changes nothing for the skill but it allows for more ways to build it.
Last edited by demon7310#6336 on Oct 19, 2024, 11:04:28 AM
I'm not at all against the idea of CI-RF in theory, but I'm not sure how exactly the game would be changed to enable it without bricking some other currently functional RF interaction.

Maybe the answer is a transfigured RF gem that deactivates when you reach 1 ES?
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:
I'm not at all against the idea of CI-RF in theory, but I'm not sure how exactly the game would be changed to enable it without bricking some other currently functional RF interaction.

Maybe the answer is a transfigured RF gem that deactivates when you reach 1 ES?

What interaction do you have in mind? I have been playing alot of RF lately and I don't really see what would be bad with that.
It only really changes how RF stops and not interactions with items afaik.
Also transfigured gem would prevent you from playing CI on mana RF, though you probably want to reserve life with mana RF for pain attunement so I don't think CI would be that good there.
Last edited by demon7310#6336 on Oct 19, 2024, 2:07:01 PM
CI gets free "on full life" interactions because it is always on full life. The downside is being unable to get "low life" interactions at all.

Maybe a transfigured RF gem for CI characters that deals CHAOS damage instead of fire? It would do ass ton of damage to you and apply -100% chaos resistance for example, so it wouldn't be usable by non-CI chars.

I like transfigured gems being actually different instead of just having different scaling. Chaos RF is a new build in general. You can pair this with hexblast mine for bosses for example, instead of fire trap.
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Esubane wrote:
CI gets free "on full life" interactions because it is always on full life. The downside is being unable to get "low life" interactions at all.

Maybe a transfigured RF gem for CI characters that deals CHAOS damage instead of fire? It would do ass ton of damage to you and apply -100% chaos resistance for example, so it wouldn't be usable by non-CI chars.

I like transfigured gems being actually different instead of just having different scaling. Chaos RF is a new build in general. You can pair this with hexblast mine for bosses for example, instead of fire trap.


RF doesn't really benefits from full life, the main advantage of being CI is to not have to build chaos res which does take alot of suffix space in an attribute stacking ES build. And the fact that it would open up different body armor with 50% global defense instead of anti bypass.
Only mana RF goes low life usually for pain attunement, but idk about new transfigured RF gems tbh I don't think they like RF that much anyway in the first place ^^
Last edited by demon7310#6336 on Oct 20, 2024, 5:05:36 PM
Hexblast mines without proper mine throwing speed/detonation speed support feel awful though, unlike fire trap which is only used on hard rares/bosses anyway.
Last edited by Johny_Snow#4778 on Oct 21, 2024, 2:14:19 AM
Also what would be nice is maybe some more support gems that worked with RF so you don't have to necessarily go swift lifetap since lifetap does not work with CI.
And its a bit tricky to lifetap your skills when you must stay above 50% to not die to bypass when some rare mobs can have prevent recovery above 50% to block eternal youth's life recharge.
Last edited by demon7310#6336 on Oct 21, 2024, 1:27:53 PM

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