Pillar of the Caged God Minmaxing/Theorycrafting Help

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H4RM4G3DD0N#7028 wrote:

I have 2 insane Pillar of the Caged God Staves
1)https://prnt.sc/URFFFSs40WxX
2)https://prnt.sc/6Hzsw_04O9aP

I am planning to play Ice Strike.

Do I go with the Ele damage scaling one OR do i go with the insane 12% Wep Dmg per 5 str corruption? And If I choose the 12% wep dmg per 5 str one...the big question is this -- what runes do I slap in it? I am torn between 60% Increased Elemental Damage with Attacks, 2-40 Lightning Damage to Attacks, or 40% Increased Physical Damage (Assuming the pillar scales its own local weapon damage). Does anyone have any insight?

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xGaleforce#3300 wrote:

I used a 12% per 5 STR Pillar for a while using Ice Strike.
To be brutally honest, the amount of Strength & Dex required to get DPS comparable to a high-end Rare just isn't really feasible.
You have to take into account you still need to meet the attribute requirements of your Quarterstaff Skills. A level 18 Ice Strike needs 97 Dex/Int to use for example. I'm a Witch Hunter and have easy tree access to Beef, Polymathy & Jack of all Trades and I'm only just about managing an even 170 in every attribute, which isn't actually enough to maintain a level 18 Blasphemy-Hypothermia aura.

Having said that.

The Pillar does have value as a weapon swap.
When I used it more actively, I used it as a mapping weapon as the area of effect mod meant Herald of Ice and Shattering Palm explosions would cascade and wipe the screen. Around T10s though, the hit damage fell off too much and it became difficult to actually get the 'splosions to trigger without getting swarmed to death first. I had about 220 STR at the time.

So I instead tied Pillar to Shattering Palm only used some passive tree weapon set points to bump up the AoE even more and now I can tag the entire screen with ice shards and then use my main weapon to do the rest of the work.

tl;dr

I don't think it's possible to exclusively use Pillar of the Caged god as a main weapon, no matter how insane of a corrupt you get. Use it as a weapon swap to take advantage of the massive AoE instead.

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LaNSa#2186 wrote:

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H4RM4G3DD0N#7028 wrote:

I have 2 insane Pillar of the Caged God Staves
1)https://prnt.sc/URFFFSs40WxX
2)https://prnt.sc/6Hzsw_04O9aP

I am planning to play Ice Strike.

Do I go with the Ele damage scaling one OR do i go with the insane 12% Wep Dmg per 5 str corruption? And If I choose the 12% wep dmg per 5 str one...the big question is this -- what runes do I slap in it? I am torn between 60% Increased Elemental Damage with Attacks, 2-40 Lightning Damage to Attacks, or 40% Increased Physical Damage (Assuming the pillar scales its own local weapon damage). Does anyone have any insight?

If you play as monk Pillar is no go in my opinion. If you play as Titan or Gemling pillar is really good and scaling is there. I still need to confirm this but base on Mathil rage is more multiplier and seems to be mandatory thing with Pillar.

When it comes to choosing you weapon corruption you need to take account multiple things. with crit build you want crit dmg(more multiplier). Non crit before breach rings I would take flat dmg not really 100% sure about this. Non crit with breach rings that ele staff is really good.

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H4RM4G3DD0N#7028 wrote:

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LaNSa#2186 wrote:

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H4RM4G3DD0N#7028 wrote:

I have 2 insane Pillar of the Caged God Staves
1)https://prnt.sc/URFFFSs40WxX
2)https://prnt.sc/6Hzsw_04O9aP

I am planning to play Ice Strike.

Do I go with the Ele damage scaling one OR do i go with the insane 12% Wep Dmg per 5 str corruption? And If I choose the 12% wep dmg per 5 str one...the big question is this -- what runes do I slap in it? I am torn between 60% Increased Elemental Damage with Attacks, 2-40 Lightning Damage to Attacks, or 40% Increased Physical Damage (Assuming the pillar scales its own local weapon damage). Does anyone have any insight?

If you play as monk Pillar is no go in my opinion. If you play as Titan or Gemling pillar is really good and scaling is there. I still need to confirm this but base on Mathil rage is more multiplier and seems to be mandatory thing with Pillar.

When it comes to choosing you weapon corruption you need to take account multiple things. with crit build you want crit dmg(more multiplier). Non crit before breach rings I would take flat dmg not really 100% sure about this. Non crit with breach rings that ele staff is really good.

Yessir I am currently Gemling. I also have a Pillar with 1-57 lightning dmg corruption so I think ill start with the Flat Lightning dmg setup until we get POB 2 in a few weeks and then let POB think for me. Ill have to check out mathils setup but I tend to avoid following his builds as he stays budget mode usually and really limits his access