Mysterious Lineage (Titan Ascendancy Node) seems bugged with Atziri's Disdain

Hello,

Opening this thread to report what I think is a bug.

I am currently playing a Titan with the plan to scale Life/ES with Atziri's Disdain and both recharges with Tetzlapokal's Desire, going with the full Vaal look.

Getting my 3rd ascendancy, I allocated Mysterious Lineage giving my character 15% more Maximum Life.
Strangely enough this doesn't affect at all the amount of ES given by Atziri's Disdain mod : Gain X% of Maximum Life as extra Maximum ES.
This implies that Mysterious Lineage life multiplier occurs after Atziri's Disdain ES calculation, which feels like a bug.

What do you think ?
Last bumped on Jan 9, 2025, 4:44:55 PM
Same thing with "Small Passive Skills in radius also grant 1% increased maximum life" mod from Against the Darkness
Could try unequipping and reequipping Atziri's Disdain, but yea, sounds buggy.
Same with %increased maximum life from Bloodmage's small nodes or soul cores. It looks like it only considers the base life.
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Reyko13#1490 wrote:
Getting my 3rd ascendancy, I allocated Mysterious Lineage giving my character 15% more Maximum Life.
Strangely enough this doesn't affect at all the amount of ES given by Atziri's Disdain mod : Gain X% of Maximum Life as extra Maximum ES.
This implies that Mysterious Lineage life multiplier occurs after Atziri's Disdain ES calculation, which feels like a bug.

"Converts" and "Gain as" occur at the same time, and before modifiers to the base stat are counted.

Unlike PoE1, they don't want things like "I convert my physical damage to cold damage to lightning damage to fire damage, so modifiers to physical, cold, lightning, and fire damage all apply". The ES "Gain % of Life as ES" will only scale with modifiers to base life (+life from gear or from Strength's inherent bonus).

%increased ES and %more ES modifiers will apply to it, but %increased Life and %more Life will not.
But this is not conversion, this is gain as extra and its different I think.
For instance I have the "Notable passives give 4% of damage as extra fire damage" mod on the same Against the Darkness, and the %inc Cold damage I get increase my overall damage and then the fire damage gained from this Against the Darkness mod.

If only base was taken into account for "Gain as extra" like it is the case for conversion, only base damage would give me extra fire damage, right ?
Last edited by Reyko13#1490 on Jan 9, 2025, 4:45:58 PM

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