The "new" ascendancies - maybe keep em?

Since new ascendancies are already made and theyre _mostly_ balanced - why not just keep em ?

Like all the mechanics are already in place you dont even need to do much - just for example:

- make new offering drop from some late mechanic, like "delirious offering" from simu or smth, you put it in font - you do lab that has like 20-40% fog in it and bam at the end you can choose new ascendancies?

- make some item drop from beyond like "crangled brain surgery device" that has 3 slots in it for beyond demons and when you kill all beyond bosses at 81+ ilvl it fills up and you can place it in your head to ascend to crangled ascendancy? maybe make it 5 slots to include lycia\uber lycia as well?

those are not giga broken (apart from whisperer yea maybe nerf that one a bit) and theyre just a fun alternative thing ...

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g00dbye#3334 wrote:

Since new ascendancies are already made and theyre _mostly_ balanced - why not just keep em ?

I do agree they should be kept because they are cool and new, but "Mostly balanced"? No way.

Most are giga broken both on the high end AND the low end, there is very little actual "balance" going on. Perhaps you don't have enough experience with all of them to claim they are balanced? I mean....whisperer isn't even the worst offender by a longshot.

It is just one massive power creep, completely antithetical to everything that GGG has been trying to do with ascendancies since early 3.xx leagues. Probably why they WEREN'T ever released before now.

It would be hard to balance thats for sure.


Theres over performers and under performers.


I dont know if they want you having 6 choices when you ascend versus 3.

In a way, these ascendancies are like a alternate version of skill gems so maybe there is a bit of precedence.


Would like to see it but there might just be too much to balance in this case.

If you are referring to the alternate ascendancies in Phrecia league, then you will be able to play them as a Private League feature after the league ends.

i am all for introducing them but the real balance nightmare comes from forbidden flesh/flame.

many of this new ascendancies are somewhat balance because the starting nodes have big drawbacks. behemoth is probably the biggest offender here, The only reason why it's trash is because the "no spells" from rampager.Now can you imagine obtaining any of the other keystones without having that drawback?

or obtaining flesh puppets keystone without having to go throw the crapshow of graveyard shift keystone.

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caboom#7201 wrote:

many of this new ascendancies are somewhat balance because the starting nodes have big drawbacks.

Yep this.

What I wanted to play was hampered by being in the wrong part of the tree.

It was fun, time to let 'em go

I think it's good they extended it so that people get to try them out a bit more. Not sure what they were thinking with only 1 month originally, when they didn't seem to have anything else planned.

Might be good if they kept the event going like a full league up until the next full new league is released. Not sure it would be good for them to persist into a new full league though. My fishing rod build has been fun, but I think they should concentrate on getting back to making solid and regular leagues. It's been quite a while with the POE 2 development and launch.