Lets talk about "The Vision"

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Motomoto#6136 wrote:

Seriously this time....

It feels like "The Vision" is a Souls-like, that plays like an ARPG.
Lets investigate this perspective....

"Souls-like" infers solid gameplay, with rewarding elements for victory. AT ITS CORE..

"ARPG" infers solid gameplay, AS a reward for knowledge of the way the game works.

ARPGs all work the same. THE SAME!! Stop trying to change the WHEEL!!!
Change is painful, and often does not work.
You aren't amazing, you are just GGG... you are human. and you are making an ARPG. Make POE3 a solid SOULs-like and milk the profits. YOU WILL WIN. You can MAKE a Souls-like.. You did IT!!!! Now lets see if it ACTUALLY has an audience when you DONT attach ARPG to it!?

Seriously, REMOVE ARPG and SEE if you still have a player base.
You might, for a couple months..... but it would fall off and you need a new game. Like every other Souls-like Franchise.

STOP trying to be something you AREN'T.

BE YOU!! WE LOVE YOU!

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Ragestorm26#0930 wrote:

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Motomoto#6136 wrote:

Seriously this time....

It feels like "The Vision" is a Souls-like, that plays like an ARPG.
Lets investigate this perspective....

"Souls-like" infers solid gameplay, with rewarding elements for victory. AT ITS CORE..

"ARPG" infers solid gameplay, AS a reward for knowledge of the way the game works.

ARPGs all work the same. THE SAME!! Stop trying to change the WHEEL!!!
Change is painful, and often does not work.
You aren't amazing, you are just GGG... you are human. and you are making an ARPG. Make POE3 a solid SOULs-like and milk the profits. YOU WILL WIN. You can MAKE a Souls-like.. You did IT!!!! Now lets see if it ACTUALLY has an audience when you DONT attach ARPG to it!?

Seriously, REMOVE ARPG and SEE if you still have a player base.
You might, for a couple months..... but it would fall off and you need a new game. Like every other Souls-like Franchise.

STOP trying to be something you AREN'T.

BE YOU!! WE LOVE YOU!

I think this is a genuinely interesting perspective and definitely worth considering. One thing I really appreciated was the clear definition of what “souls-like” means in this context—it helps ground the discussion and makes sure we’re all on the same page.

In short, I support this viewpoint and agree that we should probably start steering the design more toward a traditional ARPG identity.

That said, just to play devil’s advocate—while it’s true the current direction isn’t quite hitting the mark, that doesn’t necessarily mean the devs can’t pull off something bold and unexpected. Maybe they really can forge a new sub-genre that blends souls-like elements with ARPG roots. It seems unlikely right now, but impossible? Not necessarily.

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MeanBob_Games#6853 wrote:

Saying PoE2 is anything close to wanting to be a souls-like game is marketing. They have reached there market cap, they need new players, Souls players are the most likely to try a game out with a similar aesthetic. This game is as much dark souls as it is ren and stimpy.

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Motomoto#6136 wrote:

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Ragestorm26#0930 wrote:

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Motomoto#6136 wrote:

Seriously this time....

It feels like "The Vision" is a Souls-like, that plays like an ARPG.
Lets investigate this perspective....

"Souls-like" infers solid gameplay, with rewarding elements for victory. AT ITS CORE..

"ARPG" infers solid gameplay, AS a reward for knowledge of the way the game works.

ARPGs all work the same. THE SAME!! Stop trying to change the WHEEL!!!
Change is painful, and often does not work.
You aren't amazing, you are just GGG... you are human. and you are making an ARPG. Make POE3 a solid SOULs-like and milk the profits. YOU WILL WIN. You can MAKE a Souls-like.. You did IT!!!! Now lets see if it ACTUALLY has an audience when you DONT attach ARPG to it!?

Seriously, REMOVE ARPG and SEE if you still have a player base.
You might, for a couple months..... but it would fall off and you need a new game. Like every other Souls-like Franchise.

STOP trying to be something you AREN'T.

BE YOU!! WE LOVE YOU!

I think this is a genuinely interesting perspective and definitely worth considering. One thing I really appreciated was the clear definition of what “souls-like” means in this context—it helps ground the discussion and makes sure we’re all on the same page.

In short, I support this viewpoint and agree that we should probably start steering the design more toward a traditional ARPG identity.

That said, just to play devil’s advocate—while it’s true the current direction isn’t quite hitting the mark, that doesn’t necessarily mean the devs can’t pull off something bold and unexpected. Maybe they really can forge a new sub-genre that blends souls-like elements with ARPG roots. It seems unlikely right now, but impossible? Not necessarily.

Oooooo I absolutely AGREE, but experimentation at MY personal expense is a tuff pill to swallow. Signing up for EA was SWALLOWING the pill, and there was a PAYMENT for the PRIVALEGE to swallow the pill. Right now I'm dealing with paying for the idea of being part of the experiment. Sometimes there are adverse reactions that were not part of the original agreement.

TLDR: NEVER EVER EVER do an EA.... EVER....

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Motomoto#6136 wrote:

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MeanBob_Games#6853 wrote:

Saying PoE2 is anything close to wanting to be a souls-like game is marketing. They have reached there market cap, they need new players, Souls players are the most likely to try a game out with a similar aesthetic. This game is as much dark souls as it is ren and stimpy.

AGREED! It should NOT be DARK souls OR Ren and Stimpy... It SHOULD be what IT IS!!! An ARPG!!!