Betrayal Syndicate medallion drop chances needs to be upped

Not sure if folks agree or not, but I think farming Betrayal isnt in a good state.

Not only does the intelligence rate up slower, but the fact that the syndicate medallion drop chance from safehouse leaders is abysmal.

Since there is no Caterina fights anymore without that medallion, my crafting is hindered if I cannot get that Veiled Exalted Orb.

GGG needs to up the medallion drop chance atleast.
Each medallion is priced at a divine each while veiled exalts are 10 divines each! Surely, that is telling.

Hadn't noticed myself, I've got a couple, but didn't realise they were that expensive or that it worked like that.

The fight itself seems a little underwhelming now. I though Catarina was a good in-between boss over the last few years. Now it seems a bit dull. The fight itself and not having the underground reward. In some ways it's quick and more streamlined. It was a long fight before, but now it seems closer to just a safehouse and RNG on the reward. I haven't run enough to know if the rewards are good or not. If you are saying they are 1 DIV, I guess it is worth running.

The rest of betrayal seems fine. Seems interesting currently interacting with the new stuff. Not sure how it will go in the long run, but interesting for now is at least good. The pausing while interacting seems to be an improvement to the process and better while mapping, not being rushed on the decisions. The removal of the unveiling for crafting I have less of an opinion on. Probably is better, not having to do all the unveiling, but haven't played enough of current or past betrayal, interacting with the economy, to have much opinion on if its a big improvement or worse. So far I'm happy with running it at the moment.

I think the orbs were probably cheaper than that during settlers early on? By about half maybe? I see what you are saying. If you want to farm them out yourself and there is an extra layer of RNG that could be annoying. Is it harder to get the intelligence for the safe houses though? Seems to me like the safe houses are coming up pretty quickly, without having to reset the board if you want to run the Catarina, which is probably also an improvement.

(Looked at price per chaos on poe.ninja. Looks like after 1 month in settlers, they were 1000c and div was 170c (Substantially less at 2 weeks, graph only goes back 1 year, so I don't have the exact number). Currently 2 weeks and they are 2000c with div at 200c. So it does seem like they might be a bit harder to get, just off that. Other factors will be involved like supply and demand, but it does sound like you are correct about it being tougher to amass them.)

Not sure what the medallion drop rate is but I am playing SSF and haven't found one after like 50+ ilvl83 safehouses. I am halfway to level 99 and its not fun to grind for something that feels like it doesn't exists. And then if it drops it doesn't guarantee the veiled exalted orb...

I enjoy the safe house changes but not the boss change at all.

I'm not sure exactly, I've been getting a few, about 5 and was lucky enough to get a v. exalt off one of the catarina's, maybe getting one every 5-10 safehouse. Just a rough guess though, and that is only my data, may not be accurate to the population.

It seems like the loot for these is pretty decent, with some of the all flames being valuable as well. Though with this extra level of RNG, it might be making the outcomes very hit or miss. I think before if you did not get a good drop, the results were flattened out value wise by having the rewards in the underground section. Now it might be heavily skewed. In some cases this is fine, having big skews, like dropping a mirror or a mageblood, but I don't think it great to have massive skews on drops as a baseline.

I went some leagues finding very few natural 6 link drops. Then with ach -nemesis, one mob drops about 12 6 links. Some people might like this, getting crazy loot drops can be fun, but it can also get to a point where it is too skews and the game becomes largely based on the wild RNG strings.

So far I'm still interacting with Betray and mostly happy with it currently in trade league. Can see that this might be a bit skewed with the extra level of RNG on the Catarina though. If you wanted farm out any of her uniques before in SSF, if was pretty doable. It is still very rewarding, maybe even more than it was before, but much less predictable. Making it hard to target farm for thes purposes reliably, with the chance that you might be on the wrong side of the skew.

So before, It would take only about 3 safehouses to get the mastermind if the safehouses were levelled. Perhaps now they want it to be more than this. Hard to know what the exact value is. If it's intentionally harder to get the encounter that is fine, but I think the bigger issue would probably be without it being deterministic there can be big swings, which is not the direction they have gone with bosses in recent times, having guaranteed fragment drops for entry on most bosses.

I ran 30 more safehouse. I made sure that the leader is rank 3 with at least 2 followers rank 2 or above. still no medallion. I have like 80 allflame Embers not a single medallion. Am I really this unlucky?

Yeah. I don't no what the average drop rate is, but I assume you would usually have one by now. Not sure if those other conditions modify the drop rate. My guess would be it is something like 1/10, but I don't really know.

Found my 1st Medallion. Think I prayed to the correct RNG god this morning....

Sadly no exalted orb from boss.

Got two early on then never again kind of though they nerfed it but it's probably just rng. Also the alflames being either 1 div or 1 chaos feels bad when you get the 1c ones in a row.