Poe2 Sacred flame/Rakiata's Flow
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Hello there...
I really need to know how sacred flame and rakiata's flow work together, because I got contradictory information on this. Some say sacred flames lowest resist comes first. So an enemy with e.g. -30/+30/+30 would be set to -30/-30/-30 first and rakiata would then invert that to +30/+30/+30, making the foe actually stronger. Or a 0/0/+30 would be set to 0/0/0 and rakiata would simply have no effect. Others however told me, for flame or rakiata to count at all, the res must be other than zero, so a 0/0/+30 would stay at that after flame and rakiata would revert that to 0/0/-30. Others tell me sacred flame doesn't do at all what it says cause it's bugged. So, does anyone know for sure? And what about map mods that give monsters +x% to all res? Is this added after or before flame/rakiata? Another Dream, the Monsters running wild inside of me... I'm faded Last edited by Lameth 777#8309 on Nov 1, 2025, 5:51:35 AM Last bumped on Nov 2, 2025, 2:37:22 PM
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If an enemy has %20 fire %30 cold and %40 lightning resistances and you're dealing lightning damage:
enemy /in your presence? //a) Yes = %20 lightning resistance = -%0 with rakiata //b) No = %40 lightning resistance = -%0 with rakiata player //wearing Leopold's gloves? ///a_0) -%20 with rakiata ///b_0) -%40 with rakiata //using a penetration support gem? ///a_0_0) -%50 with rakiata ///b_0_0) -%50 with rakiata I flattened the negative values, but there's such a thing as diminishing returns in Path of Exile, so they have to change if it exists in PoE2 too. Neden yaşıyorsun? Last edited by Jideament#2792 on Nov 1, 2025, 9:39:35 AM
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All depends how you're playing, for sacred flame to work you need mobs to enter your presence (4 meters standard) then they're debuffed with it and rakiata comes into play only when you hit the mob.
if you're ranged and kill everything from farther than 4 meters then sacred flame is useless because they dont even enter your presence to be debuffed, still a good pair tho because if the mob also has +%fire res it gets negative with rakiata and sacred flame helps with gain damage as extra fire. I'm using it with a unique mace/molten blast for the gained fire damage mainly and things die outside my presence so i cant notice to tell if it's bugged or not. |
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Thank you very much for taking the time to reply.
However, both answers are not really at the core of my question. The first, because it's about an all res positive foe, and those are not the issue. The second, because it only addresses the within-presence thing. I probably wasn't precise enough. Of course, my question was only about in-presence-fights, cause outside presence flame doesn't count at all. The core of my question is: When in an in-presence fight, how do flame and rakiata work together? Is a foe that has -30/+30/0 first turned into -30/-30/-30 by flame and the hit with rakiata then inverts that to +30/+30/+30? Is a foe with 0/0/+30 first turned into 0/0/0 by flame and rakiata has then no effect, cause there's nothing to invert? Because if that is the case, for a char using sacred flame, rakiata would only help against a foe who has all res positive. Another Dream, the Monsters running wild inside of me... I'm faded
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" Presence first. Then the rakiata by your "hit". But the thing is, you can't penetrate to the negative values without Leopold gloves as far as I know so it will be 0 res. Not many monsters have negative resistances by default so rakiata will always keep them at 0 res, again, without Leopold gloves. Neden yaşıyorsun?
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" Hey i do not know for sure but in my opinion it can only be like your first examples. First sacred flame, then rakiatas. And yes, obviously they do not go well together. I really doubt that the res must be other than zero, that makes zero sense. I dont know if sacred flame is bugged though. map mods should definitely be before your items, how would that work otherwise with the being in presence condition? www.twitch.tv/marloss_live
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