[Trade] Can list items for currencies that do not show up in trade lists ?!?

I just noticed it for Orbs of Augmentation,

but I suspect it might be the case for some other options :

specifically those that exist as an option to set a buyout price,

but do NOT exist as currency options to be used when searching for items to buy ?

I think you are correct.

From what I can tell, currencies on the trade market have a fractional value assigned to them, which will dictate the order they list, when ordered by price, in equivalence to chaos. I've listed some of the ones I've worked out below, though it may be subject to changes.

alc .03c
alt .11c
jeweler .11c
chance .13c
chisel .17c
chromatic 31/100c eg. .309999...
blessed .33c
fusing .44c
exalt 22.85c
div 227.55c
mirror 117497.78c

For augmentation, and possibly other currencies, from what I can tell, they don't seem to have one of these fraction values. This may well coincide with why these items are not a searchable field in the drop down menu on trade searching. I believe all the ones I've listed above are.

Items listed for sale as augmentation, still show up on the trade search, but I believe they get removed from the results, if parameters are entered in the buyout price field.

If anyone is interested to see this, I've listed an item in Phrecia2.0 SC trade about 30minutes ago. Facebreakers, listed for 100 aug, with +lvl of socketed proj corrupted implicit.

With no parameters in the buyout field, other than the chaos or equivalent setting, the search will return about 30 items (currently). When ordering by recently listed, the facebreakers will show up on the top of the list (currently). When ordering by price, the item will remain on the list, but goes to the bottom of the order, both with high to low and low to high. If entering a range in the buyout filed, the item appears to be removed from the list. I've tested with an effectively infinite upper bound on the field and the item was removed.

So I think augment, and possibly other currencies in the game that are not on that trade list, can show up in the trade search, but may not have a field associated, that lets them be searchable on the numerical value scale.

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When ordering by price, the item will remain on the list, but goes to the bottom of the order, both with high to low and low to high.

Ah, this would explain why I had the impression that the items would not show at all, since I had quite a lot of these items up on sale, and only checked ordering by lowest/highest «price», so IIRC I didn't scroll all the way down even when filtering only my own items ..?

Though in practice, being always at the bottom of the «ordered by price» list, might as well mean «not listed» for most uses of trading...

May just not of been done since players don't usually trade in augments, to limit the amount of options in the search field, or maybe there's some other reason that I'm not aware of.

It is good to know though, occasionally I had been listing an item for an augment, expecting it to be at the top of the lowest price list, and didn't know that it wouldn't be showing there. I guess in that case it would be better to list as chrome or something else of a small value. At that point it is pretty close to just the vendor payment. I don't think there would be that much reason to trade in a high volume of augments for items currently, with the currency exchange available.

There's 25 currencies in the lists for listing and 19 for searching.

Wisdom
Portal
Scrap
Whet
bauble
Augment

are the differences I see. I haven't checked if all the others have a fractional value associated or if any of these do, but my guess is it follows that pattern. It's also possible to list for more exotic currency items using the note, but I assume those don't get placed in the price spectrum either. Have not tested if quantity of these determines the order at the end of the list either. It's possible that it does rank say 200 aug before 400 aug, or it is done on another parameter, like time. As you say though, it's largely irrelevant, if they are at the bottom of the list they are not being viewed in most cases.

After having seen people price items in orbs other than Chaos or Alchemy,

I was looking at alternatives to Alchemy Orbs to sell items lower than 1 Chaos worth
(funny how we cannot un-stack Orbs into shards...)

And Orbs of Augmentation were looking like a better candidate.

Both of Currency and Bulk Item exchanges have added friction in the form of respectively gold costs and manual trading, especially for 'small' orbs.

(Augs not being 'properly' listed in the Market panels might be why they were overvalued ??)

Yeah, it would be better if the trade site allowed for this, which it seems to not. Aug is probably the main one on that list that could be added, I don't think the others would be used much, but potential someone might want to search by aug, and have players listing by it know that it is easily viewable.

The fractions they are using are a bit limiting as well, with their relative prices. Other currencies are always going to be listed after Alch as the cheapest, with it being the lowest fraction. It would be difficult with dynamic currency relativity though. Probably what they have is about as good as it can be, without tying it to a shifting value, similar to what is listed on ninja economy. That may be annoying for other purposes, even if it was implemented. There may be uses on their end that require the currencies to be associated with a static fraction.

Overall it works well. Maybe you can suggest for aug to be added to the list of searchables, or someone knows more about a reason why it may not be included in the search list.