is there plan to remove kingsmarch?

buff ground drops and remove kingsmarch. cartels are printing mirrors with hundreds, thousands of accounts farming gold. they run games where there's only 1 player with 5 other accounts from the same person, after the main char clear maps they pick up gold with 5 other chars, all running kingsmarch at same time. ive seen a player who does this admit it in chat, said he had 23 accounts doing this.

so just because some no lifers are abusing it, it should be taken away from everyone? how about no.
i dont believe your claims BTW, while this game has some major no lifers i highly doubt they would go through the trouble of creating 23 accounts then levelling them, farming gold on each of them etc. someone just tried to rile you up in the chat and looks like it worked

no lifers play enough to farm mirrors without kingsmarch. removing kingsrmarch would just effect the little guys who dont play much but still need currency to make builds

You need to farm a bunch of ore to even send a currency shipment now anyway, its way harder than just hiring some farmers and having the gold to run the town 24/7.

At this point for the average player who doesn't farm millions of gold its probably better to spend gold on atlas runners for rewards, because it will take forever to farm enough ore for a decent currency shipment.

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Druidenjoyer#0031 wrote:

so just because some no lifers are abusing it, it should be taken away from everyone? how about no.
i dont believe your claims BTW, while this game has some major no lifers i highly doubt they would go through the trouble of creating 23 accounts then levelling them, farming gold on each of them etc. someone just tried to rile you up in the chat and looks like it worked

no lifers play enough to farm mirrors without kingsmarch. removing kingsrmarch would just effect the little guys who dont play much but still need currency to make builds

hes not playing 23 accounts one at a time. if he were, that's equivalent of playing 23x the time of a dedicated farmer, which isn't abuse, since the true cost of anything in this game is time played and if he wants to play 23x the time of other players, that's fine. he's playing a main char, with 5 of his other chars idling in map, and when he clears map he picks up gold with the 5 other chars, so 1 map of his time = 6 map of a dedicated farmer's time. he said he has a total of 23 accounts doing this, so i think hes likely doing 1 main with 5 others at a time idling in map, then change to another 5, etc. furthermore, most people only have 1 kingsmarch running, meaning there's a cap to the speed they can get mirrors. this guy is abusing with 6x time efficiency by idling 5 other chars, and running 23 simultaneous kingsmarch, this IS abuse.

maybe keep divines and sacreds for kingmarch, but remove mirrors. buff mirror drop rate to compensate. this will prevent abuse. he won't do this just for divines because divines are so easy to get.

theres a reason why mirrors are so much more expensive in poe2. even before the vaal temple abuse, it was 2.5k to 3k. wat im surprised by is why mirrors arent 500d by now with these kingsmarch abusers. likely because they just hoard the mirrors and barely sell them.

Havent you watched the announcement? No there is no plan to remove kingsmarch. They flipped the ores with the crops, meaning you now need to farm the mechanic in order to send ships.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

You need to farm a bunch of ore to even send a currency shipment now anyway, its way harder than just hiring some farmers and having the gold to run the town 24/7.

At this point for the average player who doesn't farm millions of gold its probably better to spend gold on atlas runners for rewards, because it will take forever to farm enough ore for a decent currency shipment.

Actually, is faster to achieve 50M in ore than 50M in crops. At least at the moment.

But the main issue of passively achieve mirror shards with crops were aimed and solved, since ate 3.28 you will have to play actively to farm ore.

And yet, we dont know how the mirrors shars drops gonna be. I am afraid they will suck...

ye, they are adding another port to the table and propably tweaking values of stuff heavily. I wouldn't count on shipping being a carbon copy of itself, just with flipped ore / crop rewards.

If that was the case, i would just grind blue zanth on all plots and passively print thousands of stacked decks. Was doing this with verisium bars in 3.27.

Yes let's remove systems that can be abused by an extremely small minority of players with too much time.
But why stop with kingmarch?
Remove all rarity compounding mechanics, they can be abused by groups of players to print currency.
Remove rare mobs, they can be abused by players to drop loot.
I think you should remove literally everything, since everything can be abused.

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Gorden121#2579 wrote:

Yes let's remove systems that can be abused by an extremely small minority of players with too much time.
But why stop with kingmarch?
Remove all rarity compounding mechanics, they can be abused by groups of players to print currency.
Remove rare mobs, they can be abused by players to drop loot.
I think you should remove literally everything, since everything can be abused.

+1 exactly this. You don't like a mechanic, don't engage with it, simple as that. Plenty of people like it.

Be careful what you wish for.

Removing Kingsmarch would not be a simple change. Kingsmarch is the only meaningful gold sink, and without it, there is no friction.
As we know, GGG’s approach to quality-of-life features such as currency exchange and asynchronous trade relies entirely on friction. Remove the gold cost, and these conveniences lose their justification.

Recombs vanish, asynchronous trade disappears, and suddenly you are back to messaging dozens of players individually just to arrange trades. In other words, what begins as a small tweak cascades into a full rollback of the systems designed to make trading tolerable.