Enki's Arc Witch Memorial Page & POE 2 Arc Summary

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XsabBadDon wrote:

I have a noobish question, im rising the clear mind Jewel and because and its Impossible not to Take damage sometimes my Mana ist Instant deleted i have 1.5k. I Need to Use a Mana Flask to make it Work and between the onslaught Flask and atziri promise which should i drop?

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WorderMostFoul wrote:

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XsabBadDon wrote:

I have a noobish question, im rising the clear mind Jewel and because and its Impossible not to Take damage sometimes my Mana ist Instant deleted i have 1.5k. I Need to Use a Mana Flask to make it Work and between the onslaught Flask and atziri promise which should i drop?

Try using a hybrid flask in place of a life flask.

Look for gear with more mana.

The permanent solution is essence worm with wrath + watcher's eye with mana leech (see jewels section in Enki's guide).

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WorderMostFoul wrote:

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jlh165 wrote:

Well...I decided to take the majority of last league off and came back to see quite a few nerfs. I know Enki knows what he's doing, but I'm skeptical that the nerfs make spending 2 Ascendencies to reach Beacon of Ruin is worth it. **Please keep in mind that when I look into these things, I nearly always come to the same conclusion Enki already did...not worth it.

I'll look back into Elemancer. It would really hurt the "SSF-Friendly" part, but you were able to pick up 7 golems relatively easily (I think...can't remember price of gear, but I don't think it was too expensive), making Liege of the Primordial much more potent.

You have to remember that especially with a crit build, you will generally be shocking nearly every hit anyways, the only difference is the increased damage of the shock. That means to achieve the same 15% value, a hit needs to do 3% of the target's maximum life (600,000 against Shaper) which is doable, especially on a higher-end crit (I think...again haven't played in a while and forgot certain specifics). Also note that the previous 20% shock can be attained via a 4% hit (800,000 against Shaper).

The major downside is loosing the sexy Hypothermia, but that could easily be replaced with Arcane Surge. Maxing it out provides a very potent buff since you get a higher AS buff as well as an additional 19-20% more damage to supported skills.

Now that does leave what to do with the 4th Ascendency. I'd go with Pendulum of Destruction, but alas, that really isn't that good for our build.

Overall, I think Self-cast Arc is still viable, but it lost much of it's power, and with a build that only a small percent of the player-base uses. Also, it's also possible an Ascendant variant would become viable (not because it got better, but because Elementalist got nerfed and they didn't).

I do want to thank Enki. If I saw that you gave up on the build due to the nerfs, I doubt I'd even bother looking into if Arc was viable. You've helped me out tremendously when I was playing.

Good to see you back here, dude! You've always been one of the most helpful and knowledgeable voices on this forum!

So you are raising some very interesting points here. I would never have even considered incorporating Elemancer into the build. It absolutely deserves a hard look for an optimized endgame setup. I guess it all comes down to what Beacon of Ruin actually does for us, and you are absolutely right that it is only of consequence for single-target damage. As we get into higher levels and get better DPS from gear and crit multiplier, BoR falls further and further toward irrelevance. While I don't know how likely we are to be consistently dealing 600,000 damage in a single hit, the fact remains that we still will be getting some amount of shock damage, with or without BoR. The question is whether the huge increased damage and cast speed buffs from all those golems outweigh what we're sacrificing:

1. BoR's 15% "safety" net for increased damage from shocks. As you stated, the better our damage output is, the less we lose by sacrificing BoR.

2. Slots for amulet and 3 jewels. I think that's what it would take to get the golem count up to 7. This sets us back by potentially 50% effect of shock and makes capping increased damage from shocks nigh-unobtainable. It probably would have a noticeable impact on our life total. It also might necessitate other gearing adjustments.

3. At least 1 gem slot, or more if we're doing additional golem types beyond the 3 elemental ones (not familiar enough with golem builds to say what would be best). One gem slot is no big deal; 2 or more and we'd have to dismantle a cwdt setup to fit them in.

4. Anything else I'm missing?

When you factor in other potential benefits, it might be better overall at the highest levels of play. For instance, the defensive benefit to having 7 minions instead of 2 is probably significant. Maybe they'll even do some damage themselves, though obviously that's not what they're there for. Pendulum of Destruction synergizes conditionally with Orb of Storms, so there's that. Plus any buffs from other golem types that would apply. I'm really curious what this would look like. Do you intend to seriously investigate its potential?

Also, why would we need to give up hypothermia? Can't we still chill enemies 100% of the time with all our hits just from a simple craft or abyssal jewel? I'm guessing there's a mechanical interaction I'm not aware of here?

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Ebicha wrote:

Is Heartbreaker (Royal Skean) still a decent leveling weapon? Managed to actually find two.

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WorderMostFoul wrote:

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Ebicha wrote:

Is Heartbreaker (Royal Skean) still a decent leveling weapon? Managed to actually find two.

Still pretty good as a starter weapon, but lacking any critical strike buffs aside from the implicit. They're probably not listed in the guide any more because we have so many other options now that whirling blades isn't limiting our weapon base type to daggers.

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hi im new to this game. Was following enki's awesome guide for this legion league and read some comments on the nerf of BoR. Decided to go for Elemencer and 7 gollems for my arc skill. few question.
1) how do i get up to 7 golems? both ascendency skill give me +2 golems so in total is +3 golems.
2) if i able to achieve 7 golems, any recommended element for the golems? 5 fire, 1 ice, 1 lightning?