1.3.1d Patch Notes

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jeppesu wrote:

Can't believe people are crying about this nerf and frankly if people respecced into the build thinking it would remain that stupidly OP for long then they can only blame themselves.
I mean come on, the guy who uploaded the video to reddit had decent gear at most while still killing monsters almost instantly in a 6 man Courtyard, not overpowered eh? I bet it's still MORE than viable, just as Detonate dead still is extremely good but most people abandoned that skill after its percentage damage reduction.

And likewise, I can't believe you're dumb enough to mistake legitimate feedback for crying, It's people like you that make nerfs like this possible, and frankly stay the fuck out of the people who respecced into this build's business, because for 1) it wasn't stupidly OP, it was just interesting, you have no fucking proof at all that it was OP in the first place aside from; "seeing a guy on reddit" you dismiss his optimized gear, spec, and your jaw just drops with envy cuz you can't optimize a build that can carry a 6-man party, so you have absolutely no comparative judgement, you're just talking out of your ass.

Well I'm veritably confident that this post will be removed I would just like to add that I am not the only one stirring this pot.

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Caustic2 wrote:

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The_Speculator wrote:

Figure it out, it's not hard. Okay, maybe it might be hard for you, no offense. Read that bolded part again and show me where it says movement skills shouldn't be doing damage. Seriously, before you throw the dumb word around.

Last post wasting my time defending such an obviously needed nerf.

The only person lacking reading comprehension here is you. People aren't mad about the nerf, they're mad about the degree of the nerf. Shouldn't have been hard to figure out for a genius such as yourself. And your refusal to cite your imagined nerfs only further illustrates your idiocy.

I'd prefer to laugh at you instead of educate you. First it's calling people dumb, then it's idiocy. Hilarious what you describe is exactly yourself. Keep it up, you're on a roll what's next?

Such rage, I pity you.

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Rafurion wrote:

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Qarl wrote:

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Kaysee wrote:

Why is it a problem if more people respec into it? The leagues are basically dead and players are looking for fun things to do... they find a fun OP build to try and you instantly nerf it.

Because then when we give it the nerf it needs later, these people who converted thier character to this are more annoyed.

The issue we are fixing here is beyond OP, its actually a serious mistake that needed fixing.

Thank you for the patch notes! I am glad things are under control. Hopefully things won't be as OP as this in the future.

sycophant.

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The_Speculator wrote:

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Caustic2 wrote:

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The_Speculator wrote:

Figure it out, it's not hard. Okay, maybe it might be hard for you, no offense. Read that bolded part again and show me where it says movement skills shouldn't be doing damage. Seriously, before you throw the dumb word around.

Last post wasting my time defending such an obviously needed nerf.

The only person lacking reading comprehension here is you. People aren't mad about the nerf, they're mad about the degree of the nerf. Shouldn't have been hard to figure out for a genius such as yourself. And your refusal to cite your imagined nerfs only further illustrates your idiocy.

I'd prefer to laugh at you instead of educate you. First it's calling people dumb, then it's idiocy. Hilarious what you describe is exactly yourself. Keep it up, you're on a roll what's next?

Such rage, I pity you.

Do you really prefer to laugh at him instead of educate him, in all honesty you seem to be trying to educate him and I don't see you laughing at all, I see you pity. Maybe you should educate yourself on the differences there and then maybe your opinion would be valuable on why you think it was an "obviously needed" nerf. Again, like everyone else who defends nerfs like this; you have no comparative judgement at all.

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The_Speculator wrote:

What a bunch of rubbish crying BS.

Ranger/Bow builds already OP as fuck and didn't need more stupid out of this world, OP shit like blink arrow to begin with AND builds that help make Ranger/Bow builds more OP than god.

I for one, applaud Qarl and the GGG nerf team on this one. Range skills desperately needed nerfs in so many skills, this being obviously one of them if you take off your rose colored glasses.

3 consecutive nerfs to truly OP stuff in a row, GGG are on the right track. It's about time skills other than melee gets a big fat nerf, all you non-melee crybabies can now use your 'creativity' and come up with something as 'good' as what us melee are limited to.

Next up should be TS, and crit spell casters.

WELL DESERVED & THANK YOU QARL & GGG for this.

What you have to say here is rubbish bullshit crying.

Bow builds can't achieve the defense that a shield build could, you don't take that into consideration, you just throw around "OP" like it means something, but you never explain why they're OP, you're just at a loss of thought obviously, huh? More adjective convincing, "more OP than god"

You for one applaud like a toy monkey wound up by their words and walking around clapping your little "OP" tambourines while completely dismissing the facts that have been stated. Stop talking, you have nothing to say, whatever you do say is propaganda.

Stop talking about what melee is limited, to, the strongest defensive builds in the game are melee builds. Just because you suck dick at theorycrafting a melee build that isn't fucking garbage that doesn't mean melee is limited. Fuck that, let's talk about that dual-strike Herald of Ash overkill prolif build, Blink Arrow Mirror Arrow Minion instability will never reach that amount of damage, so take off YOUR rose colored glasses and get the fuck off that cross.

Next up should be your words, there's entirely too many of them coming from you and none of them are saying a damn thing.

Thank you to myself; for having a mind of my own.

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muhomorov wrote:

Once again, i am flattered by the ignorance the forum community has to offer.

Those "nerfed" skills were movement skills and thus they should never be viable as mainattack skills. Do you guys remember Whirling Blades, Lightnig Warp Totems and Phase Run? From a developers standpoint, it makes total sense to fix an issue with the damage calculation of a MOVEMENT SKILL, which people are using as a MAIN ATTACK.

Those people who are complaining about their "build" being ruined, should just shut up. They were the ones, who were unable to add one plus one and see this coming. This was an obviously needed fix!

I'm really sorry for the devs! They have to cope with so much shit on the forums, that it's no wonder they rarely respond to posts or even read them. Just look at this thread. It's 10+ pages of shitstorming with only four or five reasonable answers in the entire thread.

I wonder where the support team is when you actually need them, because at least ~50% of the posts qualify as antagknistic posts!

Read your first and last sentence, I'm a-fucking-ghast at your god damn logic.

Legitimate feedback on updates is not ANTAGONISTIC* even if it's negative (or in this case mostly constructive); you calling the entire forum community ignorant IS antagonistic of the people you are implying is ignorant, so please, stop defeating yourself.

Don't quote nerfed like it's ironic, your whole post is ironic. Those nerfed skills were not movement abilities. Mirror Arrow is not a movement ability. (your argument is already defeated) However, Blink Arrow /IS/ a movement ability, if I were to be as complacent about this as you are and debate this with you on your level even after you've obviously been shown up factually then I'd have to say this;
NONE OF THE OTHER MOVEMENT ABILITIES HAVE A COOLDOWN! Are you incapable of seeing such an obvious comparison...?

You're the one who needs to just shut up, those people have reasonable gripes, and the devs aren't giving reasonable responses, just adjectives about damage and unclear notions of deeper unsolved problems; even when addressed that those adjectives about the damage are far off nothing has been said.

Feel sorry for the people who aren't getting paid, the one's wasting their time playing and coming out of their pockets to support and pay those devs that you think don't even read the feedback, just to have their efforts shit on massively... -80% really? WOW.

That a big was mistake. Truly creative builds mechanics that profound knowledge of show game should be nerfed encouraged rather than.

If your around relatives knew you were wonder going and perfectly nerfing fine builds they would wrong where they went.

Edit: Fixed grammar.

Launcher won't update game, freezes at 0 downloaded and 0 download speed. Never happened before. Now I can't get in at all

So what's the actual verdict on the nerf, by people who ACTUALLY USE THE SKILL?

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Extreme_Boyheat wrote:

So what's the actual verdict on the nerf, by people who ACTUALLY USE THE SKILL?

Well, it's just like any other prolif ignite build only 80% weaker.... with 50% less chance to ignite and the inability to crit or take advantage of any other non-gem damage multipliers such as pain attunement or righteous fire and you also have a 3 second cooldown... but yeah that was already the downside of the gem pre-nerf... it being 80% weaker now just pushes it down further into mediocrity, however it's still fun but definitely not worth the sacrifice of defense in my honest opinion.