1.3.1d Patch Notes

This type of nerf is the type that is chilling to a community.

Why would I EVER share such a great build again? I struggle to understand why GGG made a nerf of such magnitude. It really doesn't matter that it is OP with crap gear....other than the fact GGG has a problem with people having OP builds that aren't rich/streamer/RMT types.

I guess that's it though. The masses are not entitled to face melting builds. Only the elite. Certainly this company only caters to the elites, we've certainly seen enough from them to know the truth in that regard.

This one though....this one is the type of thing that makes builders stop sharing. The thief in the night.

I hope I'm wrong.

@jaredh; I agree to everything but the "OP with crap gear"

Sure, you don't need a really strong weapon to make the skill broken, but Explosive Arrow is kind of the same and it was stronger in nearly every way. . . The reason I don't necessarily view Mirror Arrow as being "OP" let alone "OP with crap gear" is you still have to go Low-Life, either with Solaris or Chaos Resist (at the very cheapest) and using ES? on a bow build? That leaves you very vulnerable when you take into consideration that the specialization is in MINIONS who can't provide you with leech or life gain on hit. (LGOH doesn't work towards ES anyways so eh)

I read about this function of minion instability and mirror arrow the other day. I had a summoner already and a lvl 1 mirror arrow so I bought a grove bow from one of the vendors and gave it a try.

With level 1 mirror arrow, chance to ignite, elemental proliferation and increased area of effect I was clearing level 67 maps.

A nerf was needed but it is such an intelligent use of the game mechanics that it would be sad if it is no longer feasible to build around.

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Extreme_Boyheat wrote:

So what's the actual verdict on the nerf, by people who ACTUALLY USE THE SKILL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWgXl9TTsWk

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PepprmintButler wrote:

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Extreme_Boyheat wrote:

So what's the actual verdict on the nerf, by people who ACTUALLY USE THE SKILL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWgXl9TTsWk

seems still pretty good, why people are mad ?

The skill was fully imba before...

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Malone wrote:

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PepprmintButler wrote:

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Extreme_Boyheat wrote:

So what's the actual verdict on the nerf, by people who ACTUALLY USE THE SKILL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWgXl9TTsWk

seems still pretty good, why people are mad ?

The skill was fully imba before...

Because most people probably haven't even tried the skill and only looked at the numbers of the nerf itself.

Dangit guys, nerf burn prolif, not things which cause burn prolif.

this beeing said, considering the video post nerf, I guess a slight additionnal nerf is needed... not a big one, but still...

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Qarl wrote:

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Darkblitz9 wrote:

I've got to agree that this is pretty underhanded, there's no way it deserves 80% less effectiveness when it's very well thought out and diverse.

I'd say that a nerf of 50% would've been well acceptable, but 80%? It's pretty much useless now.

Nice job.

You are so wrong. It is probably still over powered. It does need to be addressed fast before too many people respec to this genuinely over performing damage skill.

It was just the FOTM way of applying burn proliferation - which is the real culprit and will always lead to overpowered combos. You are highly influenced by M:TG design, so maybe you should do what they do with overpowered stuff and fix the broken thing and not the enablers.

Case in point: their reasoning for banning Survival of the Fittest in Legacy some years back.

I struggled to understand why you keep talking about wanting to promote build diversity.. but as soon as someone finds something to use to make a new build.. you nerf it into oblivion..

It's the one thing that is really putting me off playing this game..

that and FU**ING PHYLACTERAL LINKS..

either remove it outright or make it so that mobs far away from the rest of the group lose their link/protection.. random spread out mobs was annoying before but is even worse now that the 7 second thing was implemented..