Chaos damage and why it hurts the game in it's current form.

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bhavv wrote:


Oh rightm taking the shock node confused me, but kind of a bad build when I forgot to mention I was planning on adding ES + CI later on.


The build you're wanting to make is completely viable, just to throw that out there. The mechanics behind your build though is what's wrong. Again, pure ice caster builds have been the staple for being one of the most strong builds in the game, it probably took the spot of discharge marauders back in 9.6/.7 when they were nerfed as being one of the most popular builds ever.

The reason they're so popular is because you can get a lot of AoE/Damage while maintaining your survivability with crit by infinitely locking your enemies down with slows/freezes. You're going in the right direction as far as wanting to play a full caster that can actually sustain in end-game, I just think you have some of the mechanics wrong. I'd be willing to bet if you spec'd more crit, and less damage in the beginning that you'd find you'd be doing just fine later in the game.
you still need life nodes.

then respec into something else once you get CI

it could be either , more dmg / crit nodes or ES
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bhavv wrote:


Take a chill pill. I didnt ask for his help at all, and it is irrelevant to my build because I wanted CI too.



He isn't here to help you with a better version of your build.
He just showed you how you can build a glass-cannon even safer that its meant to be,just by smartly placing his nodes around the tree.

If you think your knowledge is enough,you can easily do the same for a CI build (even ci builds get life nodes at start).

If you keep dodging suggestions that could make your gameplay better and help you achieve what you wanted since day 1, then please either stop playing,making posts or think you are perfect and the game is in fault.

You got enough proofs that you can mitigate chaos damage without tons of life,also you got many tips on how to become a glass cannon.
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bhavv wrote:
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Nithryok wrote:


Casue your bad... my bow ele templar was "glass cannon" and I did fine up till merci vaal when he 1 shot lasered me. So even at that point max res and 2.5k life is not enough to not get 1 shotted. So you CANNOT build as a pure glass cannon for end game or you will die.

GGG did say you can build however you want, they did not say it would be effective.


Im bad but you cant avoid Vaal's lightning? Thats just LOL.

And wrong on what you think GGG said, the developer response I had via Email said that they think that glass cannons are viable in the end game.


You cried that you can't beat cruel a1, that is lol, come back and talk to me after you grow a pair and learn to play the game.

You are just a casual carebear who think's they can play in HC and when you found out you couldent you cry wolf and want the game to cater to you.
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Deceptionist wrote:
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mkmaddage wrote:


Hahahaha xD

Troll harder why don't you? NO ONE is this insanely clueless about life and humanity without being a troll (or trying to be) or a home-schooled mommy's favourite xD All y'all answering this puff of meaningless air should be ashamed - back to the real discussion for the adults!


I write better poems than you ever will:

When will the brambles come free!

Where the thorns are settled;

Will it be silenced by the decree?

Or will it finally be nestled?

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The atmosphere is poisoned!

By the snake in the opened skies;

Will there be an end to the noises?

Or will it only end in endless cries...


Why don't you stop gashing these forums with your prepubescent assertions? If you think you're an adult, I'd say that you were an adult penis with blue balls - to be more accurate.


Hahaha xD I would say you are a masterful troll for causing such unforced mirth but alas the mirth is at your expense, little one.

I don't think I will ever hear a more Spinal Tap line than: "or will it only end in endless cries..." let alone: "or will it finally be nestled" hahahahaha xD Sheer stupendous genius xD I can't even write poetry gags like this when I TRY lol.

Anyway, yes, penis, blue balls, etc. I'm a great big shaft with a pair of tender balls at my side. Please tell me you're a troll sir, I can't believe even the most sheltered, home-schooled, socially inept genetic mutoid would be as blithely ignorant of their own stupendous lack of intellect and wisdom as you are trying to pretend to be here?
IGN: ScrubcoreRulezBitch
Alt: HardcorePwnsScrubcore
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Elynole wrote:
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bhavv wrote:


Oh rightm taking the shock node confused me, but kind of a bad build when I forgot to mention I was planning on adding ES + CI later on.


The build you're wanting to make is completely viable, just to throw that out there. The mechanics behind your build though is what's wrong. Again, pure ice caster builds have been the staple for being one of the most strong builds in the game, it probably took the spot of discharge marauders back in 9.6/.7 when they were nerfed as being one of the most popular builds ever.

The reason they're so popular is because you can get a lot of AoE/Damage while maintaining your survivability with crit by infinitely locking your enemies down with slows/freezes. You're going in the right direction as far as wanting to play a full caster that can actually sustain in end-game, I just think you have some of the mechanics wrong. I'd be willing to bet if you spec'd more crit, and less damage in the beginning that you'd find you'd be doing just fine later in the game.


This is getting hopelessly funny now, Sure youre trying to help now, but earlier on you were like 'Glass cannons are not valid, you cannot win without defense nodes', and now you're telling me I dont need defense nodes?

And then the other guy is telling me to respec everything into HP for my build to be viable.

You're all clowns.
(b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted.

- PoE TOS.
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dr3af wrote:


He isn't here to help you with a better version of your build.
He just showed you how you can build a glass-cannon even safer that its meant to be,just by smartly placing his nodes around the tree.


Taking that many life nodes =/= Glass Cannon. So dumb.
(b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted.

- PoE TOS.
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bhavv wrote:


This is getting hopelessly funny now, Sure youre trying to help now, but earlier on you were like 'Glass cannons are not valid, you cannot win without defense nodes', and now you're telling me I dont need defense nodes?

And then the other guy is telling me to respec everything into HP for my build to be viable.

You're all clowns.


I never stated that you needed defensive nodes, you've been the only one in this thread to think that defense ONLY comes from the passive tree.

I stated that defense is just as important as offense, with a pure ice build your defense is your ability to freeze-lock your enemies.
Playing hardcore hurts build diversity, what they should do is create more incentives for playing softcore.
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bhavv wrote:


4) Get into cruel, and I cannot beat Hailraike + merveil with 75% cold resistance / flicker mobs / undead rhoas. Why?


Because the side quests on cruel and merciless have much higher map levels, as the mainquest maps. Halraike is a side quest, flicker mobs are in a side quest and the undead rhoas too. You have to be extrem aware in this maps or level up on mainquest maps first.
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