Chaos damage and why it hurts the game in it's current form.

If you ask me I think Chaos damage is REALLY over powered but it's not to the point where you can't manage it. I play on Default League(cus computer is trash) and when I play a melee build that doesn't stack life around the end of act 2 normal I really feel it, cus the end of act 2 and the first half of act 3 is all chaos damage and high hitting ranged mobs.
IMO if they had better Chaos Resist nodes on the whole tree that would solve alot of the issues.
If you look at the skill tree there are quite a few place's where they could just drop a small cluster of nodes and then make one of them nodes a chaos resist. Just offhand I can think of the empty spot just above Marauder starting spot, right below the Zealot's Oath keystone, all around the Witch and Shadow starting spot. Just to name a few.
Lastly, anyone notice how many mob's have chaos resist...it's like they don't want us to use chaos and just have to deal with it...
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bhavv wrote:
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Elynole wrote:
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bhavv wrote:


Oh rightm taking the shock node confused me, but kind of a bad build when I forgot to mention I was planning on adding ES + CI later on.


The build you're wanting to make is completely viable, just to throw that out there. The mechanics behind your build though is what's wrong. Again, pure ice caster builds have been the staple for being one of the most strong builds in the game, it probably took the spot of discharge marauders back in 9.6/.7 when they were nerfed as being one of the most popular builds ever.

The reason they're so popular is because you can get a lot of AoE/Damage while maintaining your survivability with crit by infinitely locking your enemies down with slows/freezes. You're going in the right direction as far as wanting to play a full caster that can actually sustain in end-game, I just think you have some of the mechanics wrong. I'd be willing to bet if you spec'd more crit, and less damage in the beginning that you'd find you'd be doing just fine later in the game.


This is getting hopelessly funny now, Sure youre trying to help now, but earlier on you were like 'Glass cannons are not valid, you cannot win without defense nodes', and now you're telling me I dont need defense nodes?

And then the other guy is telling me to respec everything into HP for my build to be viable.

You're all clowns.


Right, because your reading comperhension is that of a 2nd grader, and they said you take defensive nodes and then respec out of them later in the game.
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OP, you would have done much better to leave out the tldr and spoiler tags. Your OP was well constructed and thought out enough to incite a decent discussion, but everyone here has been misquoting the t;dr, making outrageous claims and tossing around insults ever since. Honestly, judging by the stupid as shit things people have been saying, I doubt anyone posting here has even read it at this point. And it has derailed quite a bit since then as well...
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bhavv wrote:
You're all clowns.


The most delicious irony lol. Even walking in on a conver at the end you still know immediately that the real clown is the one calling everyone else clowns lol.
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Nithryok wrote:
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bhavv wrote:
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Nithryok wrote:


Casue your bad... my bow ele templar was "glass cannon" and I did fine up till merci vaal when he 1 shot lasered me. So even at that point max res and 2.5k life is not enough to not get 1 shotted. So you CANNOT build as a pure glass cannon for end game or you will die.

GGG did say you can build however you want, they did not say it would be effective.


Im bad but you cant avoid Vaal's lightning? Thats just LOL.

And wrong on what you think GGG said, the developer response I had via Email said that they think that glass cannons are viable in the end game.


You cried that you can't beat cruel a1, that is lol, come back and talk to me after you grow a pair and learn to play the game.

You are just a casual carebear who think's they can play in HC and when you found out you couldent you cry wolf and want the game to cater to you.


I've beaten all difficulties on my second character in 5 days. Go and whine elsewhere. I soloed everything that people claim is too hard like Brutus / Kole / Fetid Pool / Ship Graveyard. And my HP stacking HC templar is doing just fine so far, but I'm not focusing on him too much because I get too many desyncs.

I simply built my first character wrong, that doesnt mean I didnt learn.
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bhavv wrote:
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dr3af wrote:


He isn't here to help you with a better version of your build.
He just showed you how you can build a glass-cannon even safer that its meant to be,just by smartly placing his nodes around the tree.


Taking that many life nodes =/= Glass Cannon. So dumb.


So,you still CAN"T understand what we are saying?

You can make a glass cannon from level 1,with crap gear and crap damage. Can succeed with a good glass cannon build,but it is hard.

Also you can aim for a glass cannon build at level 30,by taking some defensive nodes till you get your damage high enough and the REMOVE the points.

I don't think i can make it even more clear, What we say isn't dumb. You just can't understand it and you receive it as dumb.
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mkmaddage wrote:
Please tell me you're a troll sir, I can't believe even the most sheltered, home-schooled, socially inept genetic mutoid would be as blithely ignorant of their own stupendous lack of intellect and wisdom as you are trying to pretend to be here?


I'm not a troll. Thus I have greater balls than you, sir. I stand by my words, my ideas and my passion. I worked hard to steer away from the mires that plague people's perception. I know how to deal with people without crossing ''that'' line. The only reason why I appear to be a troll to you, or as you said: "I can't believe even the most sheltered, home-schooled, socially inept genetic mutoid would be as blithely ignorant of their own stupendous lack of intellect and wisdom." When will you realize that I am completely mind-blowing you because apparently I'm on a different level of comprehension than you. I'm on such a high level that most people can't see the sense I'm making because I'm so far past the surface of the water you float on like hopeless little turds - questioning what is beneath the surface, making up stories, being too much of a coward to break the surface and to brace the darkness, then when I come up to save you fecal matter plebeians, you say ''OMG. HERETIC. HE'S LYING. OUR STORIES DON'T AGREE. DROWN THE NON-TURD. DROWN HIM!''.

By the way, I'm making a point. I don't think of you as a plebeian turd. You're ignorant, though. That's for sure. You should go sit in the back with the rest of the people who can't grasp me. Those who think I'm the world's greatest troll, or the world's greatest stoner. These are merely sentences you write because you can't think of any logical explanation for what you are reading from my writings. It's normal and part of human nature. Ignorance, that is.
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dr3af wrote:
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bhavv wrote:
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dr3af wrote:


He isn't here to help you with a better version of your build.
He just showed you how you can build a glass-cannon even safer that its meant to be,just by smartly placing his nodes around the tree.


Taking that many life nodes =/= Glass Cannon. So dumb.


So,you still CAN"T understand what we are saying?

You can make a glass cannon from level 1,with crap gear and crap damage. Can succeed with a good glass cannon build,but it is hard.

Also you can aim for a glass cannon build at level 30,by taking some defensive nodes till you get your damage high enough and the REMOVE the points.

I don't think i can make it even more clear, What we say isn't dumb. You just can't understand it and you receive it as dumb.


Maybr you cant understand what I'm saying. I want to play a glass cannon beginning to end and want nothing to do with a single health node.

And someone else has also said I didnt need any health nodes on that character, just crits.

Thats why you're all clowns, you think you know so much when really you are just posting baseless opinions without having tried the builds yourselves.
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bhavv wrote:

Maybr you cant understand what I'm saying. I want to play a glass cannon beginning to end and want nothing to do with a single health node.

And someone else has also said I didnt need any health nodes on that character, just crits.

Thats why you're all clowns, you think you know so much when really you are just posting baseless opinions without having tried the builds yourselves.


I've tried an ice crit witch, it worked out pretty well. Stating that people are clowns when you clearly have no understanding of how to spec into a pure ice caster build is a bit ironic.
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dr3af wrote:
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bhavv wrote:
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dr3af wrote:


He isn't here to help you with a better version of your build.
He just showed you how you can build a glass-cannon even safer that its meant to be,just by smartly placing his nodes around the tree.


Taking that many life nodes =/= Glass Cannon. So dumb.


So,you still CAN"T understand what we are saying?



hes trolling you man. just stop. i was going to stop posting in this thread but i cant stand watching a helpful person get trolled.
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