Chaos damage and why it hurts the game in it's current form.

Chaos damage originally was the non-resist-able element, now its just out of place... Probably should segregate it from poison damage too. Get rid of chaos completely? and just have posion?

although i love the added chaos dmg gem

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bhavv wrote:

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Nithryok wrote:

I doubt you even use the correct supports with LS.

Got a high leveled LMP + Fork with Projectile damage and lightning damage passives:

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBAcFtQzyDkgQexEvEVARlhOeFr8Z1x4aHwImlSepKCoqWysKLR8uCDBUNj02QjvhRPtMLUyzVUth4m0ZbXt2EX4zfll-r3_Ggh6HZYfbiGuLeow2mVeZmpwtnqGio6SRpcumf6crpzSoGq7Pr5uxs7Q4tMW1SLb3u9a-OsEAwcXB88NtzerP6dIZ1tHbGuL344TlGetj647sGO1B8Xb1S_v1_5M=

His Cleave DPS is DOUBLE his Lightning Strike DPS, and it leeches back more mana than it costs.

His Spork Totem also does everything better than Lightning Strike can.

^^ Beat every difficulty with that character. In Merciless he was reduced to just spamming Spork totems + Arc though.

Mhmm no peirce weird... and stop looking at other peoples builds to spoon feed you.

And you do know dps numbers on tool tips mean almost nothing because they don't show effective dps per mob.

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Nithryok wrote:

and stop looking at other peoples builds to spoon feed you.

What does this even mean? I make every build entirely myself, its morons like you that keep trying to get me to copy your boring builds that you stole from Kripp.

And as for the pierce part, I dont have a single quad linked slot or better item yet.

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Nithryok wrote:

And you do know dps numbers on tool tips mean almost nothing because they don't show effective dps per mob.

Erm right, but when cleave kills everything fast, and lightning strike isnt even 33% as effective, theres a clear difference.

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nugstash wrote:

Chaos damage originally was the non-resist-able element, now its just out of place... Probably should segregate it from poison damage too. Get rid of chaos completely? and just have posion?

i agree with this. for simplicity if nothing else. what source of chaos damage in the game isnt some sort of poison?

Whoever is complaining needs to try not going glass cannon and putting 50% of their points into defensive nodes.

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Nithryok wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

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Nithryok wrote:

I doubt you even use the correct supports with LS.

Got a high leveled LMP + Fork with Projectile damage and lightning damage passives:

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBAcFtQzyDkgQexEvEVARlhOeFr8Z1x4aHwImlSepKCoqWysKLR8uCDBUNj02QjvhRPtMLUyzVUth4m0ZbXt2EX4zfll-r3_Ggh6HZYfbiGuLeow2mVeZmpwtnqGio6SRpcumf6crpzSoGq7Pr5uxs7Q4tMW1SLb3u9a-OsEAwcXB88NtzerP6dIZ1tHbGuL344TlGetj647sGO1B8Xb1S_v1_5M=

His Cleave DPS is DOUBLE his Lightning Strike DPS, and it leeches back more mana than it costs.

His Spork Totem also does everything better than Lightning Strike can.

^^ Beat every difficulty with that character. In Merciless he was reduced to just spamming Spork totems + Arc though.

Mhmm no peirce weird... and stop looking at other peoples builds to spoon feed you.

And you do know dps numbers on tool tips mean almost nothing because they don't show effective dps per mob.

Oh really? Show me a quote where I gave you a build to use, "clown"

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Nithryok wrote:

Mhmm no peirce weird... and stop looking at other peoples builds to spoon feed you.

And you do know dps numbers on tool tips mean almost nothing because they don't show effective dps per mob.

dont you want iron grip too? for double strength scaling?

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Nithryok wrote:

Oh really? Show me a quote where I gave you a build to use, "clown"

With so many people doing it and trying to force me to play exactly like them, its not surprise that I would think you were one of the same people when all your posts are identical to theirs.

And I'm guessing that you're a noobasaur that has never even tried comparing Lightning strike vs Dual wield cleave, I can guarantee you its not even a third as good.

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C2487233 wrote:

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Nithryok wrote:

Mhmm no peirce weird... and stop looking at other peoples builds to spoon feed you.

And you do know dps numbers on tool tips mean almost nothing because they don't show effective dps per mob.

dont you want iron grip too? for double strength scaling?

I wouldnt want Iron Grip at all. It would kill my 3 attacks per second.

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bhavv wrote:

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Nithryok wrote:

Oh really? Show me a quote where I gave you a build to use, "clown"

With so many people doing it and trying to force me to play exactly like them, its not surprise that I would think you were one of the same people when all your posts are identical to theirs.

And I'm guessing that you're a noobasaur that has never even tried comparing Lightning strike vs Dual wield cleave, I can guarantee you its not even a third as good.

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C2487233 wrote:

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Nithryok wrote:

Mhmm no peirce weird... and stop looking at other peoples builds to spoon feed you.

And you do know dps numbers on tool tips mean almost nothing because they don't show effective dps per mob.

dont you want iron grip too? for double strength scaling?

I wouldnt want Iron Grip at all. It would kill my 3 attacks per second.

Seriously guys - arguing with a blockhead drags your IQ down for the duration and can risk permanent damage! Leave the clown to the clown show.

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dr3af wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

Maybr you cant understand what I'm saying. I want to play a glass cannon beginning to end and want nothing to do with a single health node.

And someone else has also said I didnt need any health nodes on that character, just crits.

Thats why you're all clowns, you think you know so much when really you are just posting baseless opinions without having tried the builds yourselves.

The problem with you is that you can't understand correctly what we are saying.
5 minutes ago i said that you CAN make a glass cannon with NO HP.
Glass cannon- NO HP
Glass cannon- NO HP

Is that clear enough? If you manage to understand this,then the next step is to try and find some good sources of CC,distractions,mobility and damage.

Oh, you can build a glass cannon Default character, but have fun dying 100s of times, and releveling the same level over and over thanks to 15% penalty. My RL friend played glass cannon crit witch for a long time before swapping over to a HP/blood magic build. He finally gained levels and wasn't stuck at 70.

Did he kill stuff? Sure did. Mowed stuff down. He still mowes stuff down, now he just doesnt die. Anything is possible. Doesn't mean its optimal: similar to Melee's current woes.

If you have fun releveling levels, by all means glass cannon it up. Nothing like getting 1 shot by some chaos damage with your 700 life or whatever. My friend's glass cannon actually had 128 at one time.