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eternalJOURNEYofTHEloser wrote:
I have to laugh at these standard clowns who cant play their 10000000ex builds now.
I feed on your tears and they are delicious.
I'm laughing on idiots who starting over and over every couple months. In my eyes only idiots doing same over and over with no progress.
So, you literally calling yourself an idiot? Because, from what I read in this thread, they "destroyed all of your builds". So, this means, that you did the same thing over and over - you based "your new OP totally not copied" build on the most OP and most expensive item/skill (guess why they are so expensive? Maybe because they were OP?)
Great advice for you: If you will make next build after your "great Mjoln Jugger" is broken, consider making build w/o any legacy or other broken item/skill that will, for sure, be nerfed in future.
(If you don't know how to recognize those items/build: they are expensive)
You don't see difference do you? I HAVE BEEN FORCED to start over and over because builds were nerfed. You starting new league voluntarily. That's the BIG!!! difference.
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Posted byKastmar#4974on Sep 1, 2016, 1:28:11 PM
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I'm was hearing about mjolner OP for loooong time. I just couldn't afford it. So this problem was here loooong time ago. And certain update did it even worse. But dev. knew that mjolner is OP and did nothing.
Well, they did reduce the proc rate to 30% initially, and when players found a combination that exploited the mechanic exponentially they decided to specifically target all the effects that make the combination overpowered; reduce the damage of the triggered spell, eliminate the automatic max charges (which doubles at reducing the effectiveness of the Immortal Call exploit), and putting in a cooldown to cap both damage and server lag.
Now, again, I am not personally thrilled with all these changes. Heck, I have a legacy mjolner that just lots 90% of it's value. I'm just saying you can't really complain that they did nothing while also complaining that they are doing something.
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Posted bythurmack#0592on Sep 1, 2016, 1:30:14 PM
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Kastmar wrote:
You don't see difference do you? I HAVE BEEN FORCED to start over and over because builds were nerfed. You starting new league voluntarily. That's the BIG!!! difference.
You say nerfed like the build is completely unviable now. It's not. It's not going to be as good as it is today, but that doesn't mean that the build will be bad.
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Posted byGaza#6844on Sep 1, 2016, 1:32:35 PMAlpha Member
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Kastmar wrote:
I'm was hearing about mjolner OP for loooong time. I just couldn't afford it. So this problem was here loooong time ago. And certain update did it even worse. But dev. knew that mjolner is OP and did nothing.
I'm quite sure it's not the first time mjolner or coc is nerfed, ant it's certainly not the first time people are complaining about it either.
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Posted bylaminarija#4939on Sep 1, 2016, 1:33:12 PM
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Kastmar wrote:
I HAVE BEEN FORCE to start over and over because builds were nerfed.
True, but only to an extent. So with that nerfed character...
1.) You're still the same level.
2.) You were given a free total respec, use it.
3.) You still have all of the loot you acquired with that op build.
4.) From that loot you can easily buy whatever you want and need for your next build. Heck, there are plenty of solid end-game builds that cost way less than 1ex.
You're not really starting over, you're just making a massive change, but at little cost to you when you compare your character to someone who didn't get nerfed. For example, you probably cleared areas with this build way faster than I did with mine. You most likely earned far more loot. You're ahead. A build change is only going to set you back a little, and you're still ahead in overall loot compared to a slow-clearing build.
But there's one other factor that's important to mention: most of the PoE community knew these builds were overpowered and feared future nerfs, and since you're aware of those builds you probably already knew about those fears and rumors. Yet you continued to invest in this build. And you probably gathered a ton of loot with it. Enjoy that. Then move on and enjoy another build on the same leveled-up character.
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Posted bycipher_nemo#6436on Sep 1, 2016, 1:35:09 PM
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Kastmar wrote:
You don't see difference do you? I HAVE BEEN FORCED to start over and over because builds were nerfed. You starting new league voluntarily. That's the BIG!!! difference.
You say nerfed like the build is completely unviable now. It's not. It's not going to be as good as it is today, but that doesn't mean that the build will be bad.
The build are completely playable of course. Unfortunately they are not able to did end game content any more without death. That's why I abandoned them.
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Posted byKastmar#4974on Sep 1, 2016, 1:35:35 PM
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Kastmar wrote:
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Gaza wrote:
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Kastmar wrote:
You don't see difference do you? I HAVE BEEN FORCED to start over and over because builds were nerfed. You starting new league voluntarily. That's the BIG!!! difference.
You say nerfed like the build is completely unviable now. It's not. It's not going to be as good as it is today, but that doesn't mean that the build will be bad.
The build are completely playable of course. Unfortunately they are not able to did end game content any more without death. That's why I abandoned them.
The changes aren't in effect yet. You won't know if they can do end game content unless you try. If you can't do end game content with the build, learn the mechanics of the fight like everyone else, and learn how to beat the fight that way. If you do, you'll develop as a player, rather than blaming the balance team for doing their job.
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Posted byGaza#6844on Sep 1, 2016, 1:39:06 PMAlpha Member
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cipher_nemo wrote:
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Kastmar wrote:
I HAVE BEEN FORCE to start over and over because builds were nerfed.
True, but only to an extent. So with that nerfed character...
1.) You're still the same level.
2.) You were given a free total respec, use it.
3.) You still have all of the loot you acquired with that op build.
4.) From that loot you can easily buy whatever you want and need for your next build. Heck, there are plenty of solid end-game builds that cost way less than 1ex.
You're not really starting over, you're just making a massive change, but at little cost to you when you compare your character to someone who didn't get nerfed. For example, you probably cleared areas with this build way faster than I did with mine. You most likely earned far more loot. You're ahead. A build change is only going to set you back a little, and you're still ahead in overall loot compared to a slow-clearing build.
But there's one other factor that's important to mention: most of the PoE community knew these builds were overpowered and feared future nerfs, and since you're aware of those builds you probably already knew about those fears and rumors. Yet you continued to invest in this build. And you probably gathered a ton of loot with it. Enjoy that. Then move on and enjoy another build on the same leveled-up character.
Sure. But figure out new build is VERY hard, time and money consuming process. Everyone can 1 shot gorge mobs. But not every1 can stand T15 core boss without death. This build require lot of money and time to figure it out and not copy it. Till I get there is usually nerfed again. :-(
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Posted byKastmar#4974on Sep 1, 2016, 1:40:28 PM
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Kastmar wrote:
You don't see difference do you? I HAVE BEEN FORCED to start over and over because builds were nerfed. You starting new league voluntarily. That's the BIG!!! difference.
You say nerfed like the build is completely unviable now. It's not. It's not going to be as good as it is today, but that doesn't mean that the build will be bad.
The build are completely playable of course. Unfortunately they are not able to did end game content any more without death. That's why I abandoned them.
Ofc it is viable in end game. The diffrence is that you can;t just brainlessly smash the boss and watch rainbow particles. You have to use something called #Skill. Get used to this. (Or just switch build to next fking brainless #BossDeadIn5Sec build every big patch)
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Posted byAynix#7757on Sep 1, 2016, 1:42:05 PMOn Probation
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Kastmar wrote:
You say nerfed like the build is completely unviable now. It's not. It's not going to be as good as it is today, but that doesn't mean that the build will be bad.
The build are completely playable of course. Unfortunately they are not able to did end game content any more without death. That's why I abandoned them.
[/quote]The changes aren't in effect yet. You won't know if they can do end game content unless you try. If you can't do end game content with the build, learn the mechanics of the fight like everyone else, and learn how to beat the fight that way. If you do, you'll develop as a player, rather than blaming the balance team for doing their job. [/quote]???
I really don't get this forum.
I don't get what are you saying. So I suppose to be dancing around boss like archers do? Then I'm really developed as a player? And as every1 does it?
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Posted byKastmar#4974on Sep 1, 2016, 1:43:18 PM
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