Path of Exile 2.4.0: Atlas of Worlds Patch Notes
" Try Ice Trap instead. No DoT, still powerfull. And to previous topic. I think its obvious that they buff underused skills to help them "shine" and they nerf most OP and popular skills so less people will use them. Last edited by Aynix#7757 on Sep 2, 2016, 5:57:00 AM
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" vortex mines 10 at time explode - only one deals dot - not significant nerf. vortex multiple traps - each deals dot - 1.5 damage mult nerf - significant. could be increased by fire trap dot and/or desecrate/poison arrow mult trap and we could see some cool trapers-ground-dots builds. now we cant #RussiaIaATerroristState Last edited by VS_Revan#6591 on Sep 2, 2016, 6:08:47 AM
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As far as I can tell vortex AoEs don't overlap, either with minefield cluster trap multiple traps or whatever. The only dot part of vortex that "could" stack would be ignites in the case of a CtF Taming/Emberwake vortex. But, uh, that's kind of weird and probably not exactly feasible.
Last edited by PathOfShalti#0065 on Sep 2, 2016, 6:24:17 AM
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" true for mines. false for traps. multiple traps support (3 in row) normally use for AoE increase (and more control of affected area). trow 1 row of fire trap and 1 row of vortex - stack their dots (and slow mobs so they stay longer on burning ground). for hard cases add desecrate trap - voila! area in hell dot. nerfed #RussiaIaATerroristState
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" Oh you mean having a bigger aoe. Okay then, why not. They still won't overlap though (or you call that shotgunning?), as the dots from multiple vortex aren't cumulative. (Has been confirmed somewhere in the gigantic clusterfuck of technical questions to the ggg dev team) The dot from vortex is more of an afterthought anyway, the initial damage is way high enough to not matter, and if you're using fire traps in the vortexes, the chilling effect is enough to achieve what you want. To be fair, that sounds like an unnecessarily clumsy build. It would work, sure, but you'd have similar results playing selfcast vortex with a GMP frostbolt and single 4L flame traps, with a DoT-oriented build. |
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" wrong wrong wrong it seems that you never played trapper with level 90+ (or my english really very bad) 1) traps cd - often bottleneck for clear speed. so have one more 4L damage trap very useful - trow 1 fire and 1 vortex better than throw 2 fire for cd (and of course we won't stack 2 fire traps dots) 2) vortex dot not significant? 688 inital hit and 684 dot per second for 3 second - 300%! yes 3 seconds not significant for mobs, but not for bosses/rares/magic! 3) need cast speed for self-cast, traps throwing much faster. and of course we won't get bonuses from fat trap damage nodes from three/ 4) vortex dots not overlaps with each other, but overlaps fire trap dot with vortex dot - that is the point #RussiaIaATerroristState Last edited by VS_Revan#6591 on Sep 2, 2016, 6:57:26 AM
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" I did play a couple trappers, and yeah I hadn't gotten your point. 1°)Traps cd only bottleneck if you're not playing sab or if you're spamming way too many traps for your own good. I'm pretty sure one vortex (with increased area of effects, maybe a couple mines active to increase the aoe further) would be sufficient to kill most packs, unless you're in a 45%+ map, but that doesn't happen that often. 2°)No, Vortex dot isn't significant unless you scale it specifically. It has been theorycrafted over and over again, you're better off optimising the initial burst and considering the ground effect as an afterthought. Also regarding clearspeed, I call relevant only what effects the general clear of the map, bosses are trivial in most cases anyway. 3°)Point taken on the cast speed. 4°)I was only talking about the vortexes not stacking, I never said vortex dot and fire trap dot wouldn't overlap oO In your specific case then, you'll still have way enough damage with a 6L vortex trap + 6L fire trap (using a +1/+2 staff for, likely, vortex setup, maybe fire, would have to crunch the numbers.) But in the overwhelming majority of cases (wouldn't use multiple traps personally, again, and instead scale the aoe size as much as possible), one vortex trap should oneshoot virtually anything, so the firetrap sounds overkill outside of specific cases like uber atziri or 60%+ life maps |
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@PathOfShalti
I see your point and agree mostly, but I was talking about trap-dot-ground build. After vortex release it become possible, but everyone played poison bladefall (cause it was much better). I new that poison will be nerfed and was really looking forward to play trap-dot-build, but with poison nerf they also break down and this idea. #RussiaIaATerroristState Last edited by VS_Revan#6591 on Sep 2, 2016, 7:28:16 AM
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Is there a list with all new Atlas of World Uniques?
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New account ,new league,nice
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