Burned Miscreation Spectres and others

In for a build guide... I wouldn't mind trying out a summoner build.

I only use 2 spectres but for me the BM's RF do stack as I notice that the mobs hp do go down faster when the second one activates bit later.

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Artanthos wrote:

I focused on block instead of AC/ES and went with Bones of Ullr for the extra Specter.

Yes, if anything is going to die, it will be the BM. Their relative inability to leech makes them vulnerable. BM's are the sole reason I did not drop Vitality post 1.0.6

Just to ask, may you pm me your build/gear? I'd like to see if a viable block chance can be reached with a summoner.

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I only use 2 spectres but for me the BM's RF do stack as I notice that the mobs hp do go down faster when the second one activates bit later.

It's just an impression. They're both degen effects of the same time, and as such, they don't stack. I also remember someone getting 3 bm first, 1 bm second, running the strand boss, and seeing no noticeable difference in killing him.

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Gulnar13 wrote:

Just to ask, may you pm me your build/gear? I'd like to see if a viable block chance can be reached with a summoner.

My current tree. Charisma is next on my list, followed by the Templar shield nodes.


My gear is crap for the most part, since I refuse to play Path of Trading.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

the reason why people get two+ bms is two fold:

1 the retarded bm ai has trouble casting its ability sometimes , ive waited as long as 10 minutes for the ai to cast it.
having two + bms increases the chance of procing the spell

2 the aoe is really really small so every extra bm is 100% increased aoe.

viewing it that way i tend to do two bms paired with concentrated effect.

Yep - I've had 3 Burning Miscreations completely wiped out by packs that they should have decimated because none of them had their unrighteous fire up for a prolonged period of time.

Same for the Evangelists. When their shield is up they're great, when it's down they're toast.

Using Flame Sentinels avoids this problem because they're not dependent on a skill that can be off, and a Flame Sentinel with Life Leech can last a very long time.

Recently I died when doing Merciless Dominus, and lingered on the death screen to see how my remaining Flame Sentinel would do. It went head-to-head with him and was leeching so much that it had no problem surviving several direct slam attacks. After a minute or so it died to the lightning stream attack, but I was most impressed by how well it did.

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Qhorrin wrote:

Same for the Evangelists. When their shield is up they're great, when it's down they're toast.

The reason I use two Evangelists is to increase the chance of one having a proximity shield up.
I don't use Sentinels or Tentacled Miscreations due to requiring different slot colors.

Evangelists with increased duration/increased aoe gems are actualy pretty tanky, shield is up the most time and aoe increases the shield and I imagine also the radius of their bombs (needs confirmation). However, I neveer managed yet to kill Temple Piety without dying and my Summoner actualy never dies. I suffer from alot of desyncs so I guess it's the main reason why I die there even under the shields of evangelists. These guys are pretty hyperactive so never trust their shields to much!

Burnign misscreations are good, but somehow it feels like a stealth nerf in recent update because they need much longer to activate their aura. And the aura is not on for long, this was also different in the past.

I also experiment with the Undying Alchemists from the severs. Any Ideas what good support gems are suitable for these, except LMP/GMP of course? I use Minion Damage like always, also test increased AoE. Not sure what does also fit good to the Alchemists. What's your experience with them?

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Fusion_Power wrote:

I also experiment with the Undying Alchemists from the severs. Any Ideas what good support gems are suitable for these, except LMP/GMP of course? I use Minion Damage like always, also test increased AoE. Not sure what does also fit good to the Alchemists. What's your experience with them?

They're too frail. They get oneshotted by pretty much everything.

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Fusion_Power wrote:

urnign misscreations are good, but somehow it feels like a stealth nerf in recent update because they need much longer to activate their aura. And the aura is not on for long, this was also different in the past.

Don't know about that. Cleared some maps not long ago on a pair with a summoner, and his Unrighteous Fire was up almost 100% of the time, burning everything quite quickly. He had 2 BMs though.

BMs have the best dps, but they quickly die to any harder map mods due to the lack of lifeleech.