[R.I.P.] life Mjolner done right by Rico - Juggernaut version - R.I.P. thx to "balancing" policy

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Miyavi wrote:
Hello!

I'd like to know some info if you don't mind :)

I have a QOTF Wanderer which is good for mapping, but I dislike the fact that if I get into a dead end alley and I have no flask charges, I lose all my movement speed and such.

I was looking for a CoC Discharge build in the beginning, but I heard got severely hindered.

Someone suggested this build, but from the videos I've seen I'm not sure this might be what I'm looking for.

How does this compare to a Cospri's CoC Discharge or Autobomber regarding map clearing speed?


This build isnt the slowest, but isnt the fastest in term of speed clearing.

You should get same speed clearing of CoC cospri with this build. Bomber is way faster (but you dont kill any bosses..)

If you have shield charge - Leap slam - faster attack 20/20 its kind of fast.

The AOE of discharge isnt that big so you have to move around sometimes to kill packs.

But its a really fun build to play.

My other character is a TS/Barrage and the DPS/speed clearing of the discharge is far inferior.

You just never die, its tanky as hell, do good DPS with all the set up. Its a good balanced build. You do practically anything. I had a lot of difficulty VS Chayula which is chaos dmg based and my chaos res is -50% lol.

What i hated from my Barrage raider is that i get one shotted and never knew if i was going to do uber lab alive. With this discharge you run in traps with ease.

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Feurn wrote:
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Miyavi wrote:
Hello!

I'd like to know some info if you don't mind :)

I have a QOTF Wanderer which is good for mapping, but I dislike the fact that if I get into a dead end alley and I have no flask charges, I lose all my movement speed and such.

I was looking for a CoC Discharge build in the beginning, but I heard got severely hindered.

Someone suggested this build, but from the videos I've seen I'm not sure this might be what I'm looking for.

How does this compare to a Cospri's CoC Discharge or Autobomber regarding map clearing speed?


This build isnt the slowest, but isnt the fastest in term of speed clearing.

You should get same speed clearing of CoC cospri with this build. Bomber is way faster (but you dont kill any bosses..)

If you have shield charge - Leap slam - faster attack 20/20 its kind of fast.

The AOE of discharge isnt that big so you have to move around sometimes to kill packs.

But its a really fun build to play.

My other character is a TS/Barrage and the DPS/speed clearing of the discharge is far inferior.

You just never die, its tanky as hell, do good DPS with all the set up. Its a good balanced build. You do practically anything. I had a lot of difficulty VS Chayula which is chaos dmg based and my chaos res is -50% lol.

What i hated from my Barrage raider is that i get one shotted and never knew if i was going to do uber lab alive. With this discharge you run in traps with ease.



Thanks for answering!

>> The AOE of discharge isnt that big so you have to move around sometimes to kill packs.

That's what I feared. I leveled a Cyclone raider... and the very same thing frustrated me a lot when mapping: having to constantly move again to finish off left overs.

>> What i hated from my Barrage raider is that i get one shotted and never knew if i was going to do uber lab alive. With this discharge you run in traps with ease.

That's what happens to my Wanderer too, lol. I'm just learning to dodge and I've been doing great for the last few days, though.
Last edited by Miyavi on Jan 13, 2018, 7:45:02 AM
Hey guys,

I'm loving the build so far, just only lvl 70, but I have a problem I can't seem to make blade vortex work I mean I can't even cast it... any idea why?

Here's the link to my character:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ZoomX/characters?characterName=Zerkul

Sorry if it's a noob question, but I am a noob after all in this game... I've tried searching about this in the thread but I didn't find anything relating to this issue.

Also I'm grinding towards voll now, I know my items are a bit on the low side but so far it does the job, at least until i farm more chaos to afford better items.

Thanks :)
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ZoomX wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm loving the build so far, just only lvl 70, but I have a problem I can't seem to make blade vortex work I mean I can't even cast it... any idea why?

Here's the link to my character:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ZoomX/characters?characterName=Zerkul

Sorry if it's a noob question, but I am a noob after all in this game... I've tried searching about this in the thread but I didn't find anything relating to this issue.

Also I'm grinding towards voll now, I know my items are a bit on the low side but so far it does the job, at least until i farm more chaos to afford better items.

Thanks :)


Hey ZoomX,
The reason you can't cast Blade Vortex yourself is because you have it linked to "Cast When Damage Taken Support" (or CWDT in short).
That means when you take enough damage, 2621 damage in your case, you automatically cast it together with "Immortal Call".

Be careful not to level CWDT, Immortal Call and Blade Vortex to high. I think the "best case" CWDT is to have it at ~30% - ~40% of your max. life, to make it proc often enough in situations where you take damage, thats how it works best for me at least.



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Clayne wrote:
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ZoomX wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm loving the build so far, just only lvl 70, but I have a problem I can't seem to make blade vortex work I mean I can't even cast it... any idea why?

Here's the link to my character:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ZoomX/characters?characterName=Zerkul

Sorry if it's a noob question, but I am a noob after all in this game... I've tried searching about this in the thread but I didn't find anything relating to this issue.

Also I'm grinding towards voll now, I know my items are a bit on the low side but so far it does the job, at least until i farm more chaos to afford better items.

Thanks :)


Hey ZoomX,
The reason you can't cast Blade Vortex yourself is because you have it linked to "Cast When Damage Taken Support" (or CWDT in short).
That means when you take enough damage, 2621 damage in your case, you automatically cast it together with "Immortal Call".

Be careful not to level CWDT, Immortal Call and Blade Vortex to high. I think the "best case" CWDT is to have it at ~30% - ~40% of your max. life, to make it proc often enough in situations where you take damage, thats how it works best for me at least.





Oh lol, I feel stupid now, >.< thanks for the insight it makes sense, but I guess the 2621 damage is a bit too high then? since my max life is about 4.1k it will take longer to go down half of that in order for the vortex to proc.

Anyway thanks again for the help, stupid noob mistake on my part :D
Hey guys, nice build. Just wondering if is possible to use biscos while chaining spider forest with breach.
So here's the gear i was able to get for this build. Very fun. Might move on on another build now. If it can helps people to see my gear (its not for showoff). I've been very lucky with enchants. Took 3 enchants for the helm and about 15 enchants for boots.

PS: Enlighten lvl 4 is not necessary, lvl 3 is good. I got lvl 4 for a previous build.

I switch Conc effect vs boss and Arc for clearing.

My next ugprades are :

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- Corrupted gloves with Elemental weakness on hit;
- + 1 curse voll's devotion;
- CDR belt >18% with at least life/resists and corrupted + 1 endurance charge (and MAYBE %spell dmg while flask is active "the dream :3";
- Getting 4,5 APS with cyclone.


I feel like this build can get even better with those upgrade, but its really costly.
I wasted about 3 ex of crafting with the belt lol.

Have fun and a special thanks for RicoKGB for this build :)

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Last edited by Feurn on Jan 13, 2018, 3:27:51 PM
Cam someone explain to me,why in the world do i keep randomly not hiting or proccing discharge.

I was attempting a shaper run and when i hit him u can feel the crisp dps, but other times im right next to him, and im 1000% im not laggin but im not proccing discharge the sound doesnt make a hit sound im cycloning on top of him though. very strange issue. Is it accuracy (91%) or is it simply lag and im not seeing it? is conc effect affecting the range on my procs?

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Btw ridiculuosly fun build, and tanky, ive tried maxing out on +max rez, planning on getting a watcher eye with phys taken as 2 purities to get even more tankiness when that jewel pops on sale.

Just wish i didnt die to this hiting air issue.
ign @Firion_Black
Last edited by Newb4evar on Jan 13, 2018, 7:27:46 PM



Btw ridiculuosly fun build, and tanky, ive tried maxing out on +max rez, planning on getting a watcher eye with phys taken as 2 purities to get even more tankiness when that jewel pops on sale.

Funny you mentioned that, I have been thinking the same thing and just hit the lotto myself;



=)
Divine that to perfection. Its worth every divine. Im jelly as fk. :p
ign @Firion_Black

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