Tencent has Invested in Grinding Gear Games

I really hope im wrong but i have this weird feeling....future expansions are going to be b2p

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vacii wrote:

You entitled "people" threatening not to buy supporter packs because feelings is what led to this. People need security to be productive and work towards a goal. Entitled millennial with attention span of 6 seconds, clueless to how the real world works can provide any sort of security.

I am a Trump voting Gen-X'er. I have the MAGA hat to prove it. Now that your first assumption is blown out of the water faster that Hillary Clinton's electoral dreams, we can deal with the rest.

"Security" is provided by maintaining the goodwill of your customers. This is generated by quality products, dealing with your clients in good faith on the occasions when the product is less than satisfactory, and instilling in your customer confidence that your company will hold true to its foundational philosophies for the foreseeable future - to protect their investments of time and money.

GGG under Chris Wilson provides those things currently. He thinks he can continue his record under Tencent.

I trust Chris Wilson and I trust his intentions...

"Grinding Gear Games (or GGG) is a Tencent owned video game developer founded in 2006 and based in Auckland, New Zealand."


...but now you're asking me to "trust" the new owners, and I don't like what I am seeing of them one bit.

The word "Owner" is important for a reason.

@wuffell
are you the designated shill for this hour or what's up because I see you trying to combat any post that does not shill this selling out.

I will say this one last thing regarding what you spout in each of your posts, yes chris was passionate about his game, it's normal, he made it along with a very few others. I don't know what your damage is but the facts are in, reals before feels. he sold his company ( 80% is a sell out not an investment, stop being dense on purpose ) and that's the end of it.

oh yeah I love my child so much but if you give me money then I'm ok to sell my beloved creation.

just stop.

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JoOnky wrote:

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vacii wrote:

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fatelessguy wrote:

but we won't buy supporter packs then, huh. And they need it to earn more money from tencent.

You entitled "people" threatening not to buy supporter packs because feelings is what led to this. People need security to be productive and work towards a goal. Entitled milenials with attention span of 6 seconds, clueless to how the real world works can provide any sort of security.

u mean the security we open/closed beta supporters had in believing GGG founders are good guys, who wont sell out like notch did? the only reason this game BECAME big was of the ppl who supported GGG when all GGG had was integrity, now thats gone.

i can assure u its not ALL millenials, that had the money and patience to invest in this game when it looked like runescape.

u dont know nothing

I mean financial security for the content they need to develop. Financial and social security for their employees (which a re the people who do all the heavy lifting and earn their salaries ten fold). Economic security for the local industry.

What you are describing is an emotional security, no one forced you spend money, no one forced you to believe or to stop believing in that matter.
What they did is ensuring you get the content you want, faster and with better quality.

Assumptions like "This is the end of the world", are idiotic in the sense that this your beliefs are no necessarily how the real business world works.

I would like to propose a question if GGG were selling shares to the public instead, how many shares would you buy, without expecting any dividend?

I'm disappointed.

I really don't worry for GGG. Tencent already owns Ubisoft and Riot Games parts and seems to let them do their jobs as they want.

I'm disappointed because I wanted to read more news about the 3.3 and the incursion league and there's none.

Wow, this is just about the worst news I could possibly get literally the day after I purchase my first supporter pack.
I put this off for almost five years, and wake up to GGG being lost to the corrupt monolith of the east, great.

Tony G said it best:

"Bye bye ahahaha, I will take all your chips, everything, everything, and it's going to be 5 minutes too. I'm gonna destroy you, kill you.".

It's not about the company being successful. Overwatch, LoL and Dota 2 are successful too, but they have become mindless games that taper off and become boring.

It's about PoE values and strong community impact that I fear will fade away in time. Now Tencent will be a stronger motivator and have more impact than the players, no matter how much Chris loves the community. This decision sums it up.

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tarabas wrote:

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vacii wrote:

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Wuffell wrote:

If it lets them put more money into creating awesome content for us, that's a win-win.

Exactly!

the general feel is that supporter pack / MTX purchases might go down which will impact on their profit. and how will tencent take it from there is a question mark. previously people are more willing to spend cash as its actually a way of supporting the developers financially to develop the game. now it feels microtransacations are there to support their profits instead.

Personally I feel that most of the "we're only buying packs cos they're small" went away around three years ago. Buying packs to help develop the game, well it's very likely that's still needed; after all, if people don't buy packs, the game will die.

Me, I bought a decent amount cos they're an NZ company. At least, that was around half my justification ... now, the definition is a little foggy, but I'm likely to spend the same amount, cos I want shiny things for my characters!

Overall, yes some people will leave the game, or stop buying packs. Some of those people will start buying packs down the line. I hope many more people will start playing the game as well, due to extra advertising/etc, and the game will be better off than before.

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Wuffell wrote:

Chris and the others are very passionate about the game, and the core guys love aRPGs. Watch Baeclast or other videos that Chris has been involved in, his passion for the game is obvious.

Of course they need to make money, but they'd never make this large a decision without being very confident that it's best for the game and the community.

But you see guise, we'll have spring roll spectral throw mtx in no time, to say nothing of soup dumpling flamethrower traps. Just like how Xbox and the lab both ruined the game irreparably, and triggered everybody so hard they needed psychiatric help to get over it. /s

These days I'm getting more and more sick of this community, the sheep who infest it, and particularly the reddit hivemind. Every single decision gets thrown under a magnifying glass with declaration of how the game is ruined, no fun allowed, etc. that it's beginning to grate even for me.

I'll just openly say it - most of this lot are a collection of wishy-washy ingrates with trust issues. Money or no money, because GGG made a decision for the continued improvement of the game, suddenly "omg ggg y u sell out" and declarations of doom that PoE will die soon.

Guess what, without further support, that "soon" might arrive a lot quicker than you think.

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JoOnky wrote:

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vacii wrote:

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fatelessguy wrote:

but we won't buy supporter packs then, huh. And they need it to earn more money from tencent.

You entitled "people" threatening not to buy supporter packs because feelings is what led to this. People need security to be productive and work towards a goal. Entitled milenials with attention span of 6 seconds, clueless to how the real world works can provide any sort of security.

u mean the security we open/closed beta supporters had in believing GGG founders are good guys, who wont sell out like notch did? the only reason this game BECAME big was of the ppl who supported GGG when all GGG had was integrity, now thats gone.

i can assure u its not ALL millenials, that had the money and patience to invest in this game when it looked like runescape.

u dont know nothing

I'm still certain they're good guys :)