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j3bu5 wrote:

Hiya!

I've been following this guide (the sword and wand version) since league start and got to level 83 and took a break for a month or so - looking at the updated version, it seems we've pathed away from Phase Acrobatics now and If I want to actually follow this i'm going to need to re-spec a lot of stuff. Should I just look at moving to PoH version? I can probably afford poor version of all the required uniques for it, but is a poor PoH build as good as a semi optimised sword and shield build?

Thanks!

So turns out I screwed up. Tried to migrate to the new version of wand and shield and wrecked all of my delicately balanced resistances as well as not having enough dex to wear almost all of my green gems. Basically need rebuild the character from scratch again - Seems I should have just gone for PoH instead of trying to limp it through - fair warning for anyone else looking to do something similar.

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j3bu5 wrote:

Hiya!

I've been following this guide (the sword and wand version) since league start and got to level 83 and took a break for a month or so - looking at the updated version, it seems we've pathed away from Phase Acrobatics now and If I want to actually follow this i'm going to need to re-spec a lot of stuff. Should I just look at moving to PoH version? I can probably afford poor version of all the required uniques for it, but is a poor PoH build as good as a semi optimised sword and shield build?

Thanks!

In my opinion, a okay wand build > a poor poh.

Ive been doing comparison of both build and on a ~25ex wand build i can do all endgame content, only a little bit behind my 50ex PoH build in term of speed, but its super tanky.

A poor PoH build will have only a little bit more attack, but will be much squishier. I suggest to go for wand and shield at first until you have enough currency to afford PoH build.

Note that gloves, boots, belt and rings can be shared between the builds. Amulet can also until u can afford haste aul.

The only thing youd have to afford is a decent watcher %mana as es and a new chest with the %life as es.

You could make your wand and shield chest with %life as es to prepare for the swap instead of %life/%mana, then youd only really need watcher and 6link poh to be on a good start.

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j3bu5 wrote:

So turns out I screwed up. Tried to migrate to the new version of wand and shield and wrecked all of my delicately balanced resistances as well as not having enough dex to wear almost all of my green gems. Basically need rebuild the character from scratch again - Seems I should have just gone for PoH instead of trying to limp it through - fair warning for anyone else looking to do something similar.

That sucks :( but are you sure you did it right? New wand build requires less dexterity than poh or old wand. Like 60 less dex. As for resist, you should be capping them easier due to using a rare shield and Bone barrier's 30% res.

Mind sending me your PoB?

Ty for replying. I think I'll cut my losses (none so far really, technically speaking "future losses" if I were to annul, got lucky with 2x in a row with that single +1 mod, but I don't fancy my chances 3rd time!).

As I'm not crafting for profit I'll stick with the life as is and then multimod :)

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PyknoR wrote:

Ty for replying. I think I'll cut my losses (none so far really, technically speaking "future losses" if I were to annul, got lucky with 2x in a row with that single +1 mod, but I don't fancy my chances 3rd time!).

As I'm not crafting for profit I'll stick with the life as is and then multimod :)

For sure! Life is always good too. Last time i was trying to buy a wand, a 100% dmg/30%life/trigger/+1 was about 25ex... so id say yours is pretty good :) % attack speed would.maybe add 7-10% more damage not sure, but risky. And life is always nice for more tanky minions or if you wanna use animated guardian

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worldpk wrote:

That sucks :( but are you sure you did it right? New wand build requires less dexterity than poh or old wand. Like 60 less dex. As for resist, you should be capping them easier due to using a rare shield and Bone barrier's 30% res.

Mind sending me your PoB?

You are spot on my man - I totally missed the switch to bone barrier. I was also still trying to slum along with my old tabula and victario's charity. I should indeed be able to correct these. Also realised phase run was left at 1 in the build and mine is up to level 16 or something now. That ones an easy fix :D

Thank you for the input! if I still have issues I may well take you up on that PoB review.

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j3bu5 wrote:

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worldpk wrote:

That sucks :( but are you sure you did it right? New wand build requires less dexterity than poh or old wand. Like 60 less dex. As for resist, you should be capping them easier due to using a rare shield and Bone barrier's 30% res.

Mind sending me your PoB?

You are spot on my man - I totally missed the switch to bone barrier. I was also still trying to slum along with my old tabula and victario's charity. I should indeed be able to correct these. Also realised phase run was left at 1 in the build and mine is up to level 16 or something now. That ones an easy fix :D

Thank you for the input! if I still have issues I may well take you up on that PoB review.

Nice! Yeah you dont need victario for sure anymore since no more aegis. A decent shield are pretty cheap,i got a 130 life 1 t2 resist and 5% life on block for under 150chaos, also i think magna eclipsis is a decent placeholder

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worldpk wrote:

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PyknoR wrote:

Ty for replying. I think I'll cut my losses (none so far really, technically speaking "future losses" if I were to annul, got lucky with 2x in a row with that single +1 mod, but I don't fancy my chances 3rd time!).

As I'm not crafting for profit I'll stick with the life as is and then multimod :)

For sure! Life is always good too. Last time i was trying to buy a wand, a 100% dmg/30%life/trigger/+1 was about 25ex... so id say yours is pretty good :) % attack speed would.maybe add 7-10% more damage not sure, but risky. And life is always nice for more tanky minions or if you wanna use animated guardian

Indeed using AG. Went from 47k life to 55k D: ... too bad the damage craft was the lowest possible >.> still, does the job (considered recrafting, but not worth the 2ex imo just to try and hit a slightly higher damage craft):

Can someone explain how you can get a Ilvl 86 Bone helmet without buying it? Is it really just random drop luck in Shaper's Realm?

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Sttorr wrote:

Can someone explain how you can get a Ilvl 86 Bone helmet without buying it? Is it really just random drop luck in Shaper's Realm?

There are also delve biomes with +levels. And if a node can drop a Bone Helmet, it will be higher level as well. But if ilvl 86 Bone Helmet (non-corrupted, non-mirrored) costs 1ex, we can safely assume those don't drop easily.

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worldpk wrote:

Isnt Faster Recharge "Faster START of Recharge"? Which is why I think it's not useful, because with Wicked Ward, your Recharge isnt interrupted so you do not make full use of the "Faster start", and at 1ex pricetag for the craft.. not very tempting. Just my opinion.

My bad not write it correctly , it actually " faster start of recharge". With 2 multi craft rings it would be around 1.5sec to start recharge ES.

I stop picking item with "minions deal increase dmg" since >1mil dmg per spectre is good enough and those items are ridiculous expensive.

Btw, what is your best wand and how much is your spectre dmg?
PoH or other staff only cost ~10ex or more and wand is >30 ex . Such ridiculous :D