Does anyone enjoy the process of buying/selling Harvest crafts?

Yesterday i did chaos to chaos and value didn't even change, felt like a scammer lol

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innervation wrote:

Do you enjoy the specific part of the process where you buy/sell harvest crafts or do you like the gear you get out of it? Or you just like that it's 'easier' than it used to be and you'll take any system that makes it easier?

Yeah it's actually exciting to buy and sell crafts. I'm either making money with literally zero effort or slamming insane gear (potentially). The reward far outweighs the risk imo.

While not perfect it's the system we have for (trade league) and I've embraced it 100%. Hell, I've never even used discord before this league lol.

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frostzor27 wrote:

Harvest/Beast modified items MUST BECOME ACCOUNT BOUND, ASAP.

Many donkey years back, some people complained that Basketball has a big advantage to taller players, as they can reach nearer to the hoop.

So NBA RAISE the hoop!!!!!!

Yes, the taller players had a slightly longer distance to the hoop & reduce their advantage.

The problem is, it makes it worse for shorter players!!!!

The harvest crafting (& crafting in general as well) situation is exactly like that. They found a problem, then proceed to "resolve" the problem, but making it WORSE!

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KiadawP wrote:

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frostzor27 wrote:

Harvest/Beast modified items MUST BECOME ACCOUNT BOUND, ASAP.

Many donkey years back, some people complained that Basketball has a big advantage to taller players, as they can reach nearer to the hoop.

So NBA RAISE the hoop!!!!!!

Yes, the taller players had a slightly longer distance to the hoop & reduce their advantage.

The problem is, it makes it worse for shorter players!!!!

The harvest crafting (& crafting in general as well) situation is exactly like that. They found a problem, then proceed to "resolve" the problem, but making it WORSE!

Spud Webb, Mugsey Bouges, Chris Paul, Oscar Robertson, Bob Cousey, John Stockton, Steve Nash...Should I continue?

Wtf are you smoking my dude?

Lol. Turrible analogy, but I agree with the point.

I know shit about NBA except they bent to socialist-marxist movements recently... I miss old times when I just sat and saw Michael Jordan.

Terrible analogy, but you are wrong. Making Harvest/Beast crafted items account bound benefits way more the game and the plebs than the current state. Account bound items would make it free to store as many crafts as possible, free to make Harvest encounters more frequently, more rarer seeds per encounter, etc.

This would also prevent the item abuses which is a problem since forever. How many abused the watchstone/blueprint/deli maps since they were tradeable?

That's where Bestiary and Harvest failed: allowing modified items to be traded. That created monsters like TFT and else. That just make the rich richer and the gap between players increase.

Or you think it's better a common player farm thousands of exalts to spend in TFT to buy crafts than he/she having plenty of crafts and make it by him/herself? Better for who?

Welp, so many people treat trade as if it was a MMO instead of ARPG. Even GGGCent. Stop being short-minded and short-sighted. Why fight progress?

I have crafted 4 really, really good items using TFT, and I tell you, the process is exhausting. But for most of us not in the 1% of people who spends hundreds/thousands of exalts to create mirror tier items, Harvest crafts are the only way to create comparable items. With the specific issue with people divining the roll instead of using the exalt craft? It very well may could have happened to me because there have been a few times chasing life rolls where the value was in the same tier after the craft, and with 4 different mods in the pool, and in the case of flat life, 13 different tiers it can hit, it seems odd in retrospect that I experienced that. Fault is on me I guess. The thought of people doing that was never on my mind, but looking back I totally get it.

Wraeclast is a horrible place...

It's not really an issue if you stream everything, although some folks can edit streams to make it look like the other guy scammed him and get brownie points for that? idk.

Most people just want to get shit done, and don't mind the extra step of streaming on discord for 10 seconds

That's how we help each other get better at the game already, so it's not that much of a stretch.

i doubt anyone enjoys the process of buying/selling harvest crafts, but im sure people feel required to do it - because you're missing out on so much if you don't.

i had like 15 exalts worth of crafts sitting in my horticrafting station, ones i wasn't focused on using (rem/aug crit, phys, lucky outcomes etc). i ended up just throwing them out because i'd rather lose out on 15 ex then feel required to go through the bullshit to collect.
worse off is buying the crafts and risking your item getting scammed

IMO harvest shouldn't be able to be traded at all. and technically it isn't, like Phrazz said, but we have our work arounds because we're craving the currency and power. IMO it shouldn't be a thing at all

Or you can really show Chris who's boss by giving the crafts away to the first comer. Communism!

>:^)