GGG, you need to fix Alva npc flipping NOW!

hell.. just watch the vid I posted.. I've earned 85 exalts in 1 minute, if that isn't an issue then nvm. Lets keep flipping.

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

hell.. just watch the vid I posted.. I've earned 85 exalts in 1 minute, if that isn't an issue then nvm. Lets keep flipping.

imo problem is,that any game with trading system will attract RMT players/companies(bots,spcripts). that is what destroy market

we will never ever have games with healthy trading markets again.

in real life
People buy houses and flip them ,
scalpers buy event tickets and flip them
etc etc
is this the world you wwanna live in ??

alva is great, because you can get instaant trade wwitout having to wait if some dude is going to reply or having to go into a lagy hideout because the seller live at thew other end of the wworld

alva is the first step toward the price fixer problem that is way worst for the trading aspect of the game
it should even extend to aa *buy it now* option for public stash tab so you dont have to spend 10 minute messaaging price fixer
or you could buy cheap item that is often not worth wasting the time for someone grinding high end content or even buy from someone offline

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IzludeQC#4238 wrote:

in real life
People buy houses and flip them ,
scalpers buy event tickets and flip them
etc etc
is this the world you wwanna live in ??

alva is great, because you can get instaant trade wwitout having to wait if some dude is going to reply or having to go into a lagy hideout because the seller live at thew other end of the wworld

alva is the first step toward the price fixer problem that is way worst for the trading aspect of the game
it should even extend to aa *buy it now* option for public stash tab so you dont have to spend 10 minute messaaging price fixer
or you could buy cheap item that is often not worth wasting the time for someone grinding high end content or even buy from someone offline

This.

Any solution these ppl come up with for non-existent problems would cause way more problems than they can even imagine.

Stuff like this nonsense for example:

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Yeah a limit on how much an account can trade per day should be imo otherwise this games is going to be just alva sitting and on the new league the same thing will happen.

So... every normal player has a limit of "x trades per day" to make the economy better and "fair" without exploits? Pahaha... bruh.
This would mean that everyone who plays the game "normally" would be giga cucked because all the ppl who want to "play the market" and/or bots with multiple accounts (you know, the game is free when released) can make "x times the number of accounts they are using".
And don't forget that ppl wouldn't list "B stock" anymore because nobody would use a daily limited trade for "low value currency"... so this stuff would become rare af or not even be on trade in the first place.

You're completely missing the point. No one is saying to limit all trading, only the ability to abuse the system by flipping the same orbs back and forth. Normal trading would still function just fine; players could still buy and sell as usual. The only people affected would be those exploiting the system to generate absurd profits in minutes.

If the only counterargument is "but flippers and botters won’t like it," that just proves how broken the system is. A proper fix wouldn’t kill trade, it would just prevent this kind of effortless, insane-profit loop from dominating the economy and making normal gameplay feel worthless.

You can still sell your 1,000 Regal Orbs normally through the NPC if you need a different currency, there’s no intent to restrict genuine trades. The proposed limit would only target repetitive flipping, where players repeatedly reverse the same trade to quickly amplify their profits.

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

You're completely missing the point. No one is saying to limit all trading, only the ability to abuse the system by flipping thousands of the same orbs back and forth. Normal trading would still function just fine; players could still buy and sell as usual. The only people affected would be those exploiting the system to generate absurd profits in minutes.

If the only counterargument is "but flippers and botters won’t like it," that just proves how broken the system is. A proper fix wouldn’t kill trade, it would just prevent this kind of effortless, insane-profit loop from dominating the economy and making normal gameplay feel worthless.

Wrong. You are missing the point.

The currency exchange is loved by basically everyone because it's huge QoL and prevents ppl from price fixing.

Then forcing ppl back to the normal trade because YOU think it's an exploit is laughable.
Darling, the ppl who actually exploit trade (the non-Alva version) already use bots to trade with insane speed. So the only thing your change would "achieve" is making QoL for most ppl worse while ppl who bot and script still do their thing unaffected. Great.

I confirm that it works! It's stupid but very very profitable

Thanks for sharing!

there are two things:

the intransparent trade system, where you can`t identify those who make big bank by running schemes.

the fact that you can make gold by not playing the game, imho that wasn`t what they promised when they spoke about those ingame trade improvements

For clarification, nobody said "remove Alva".
The problem is - if you limit trades per account via Alva, ppl who exceed the limit had to use the normal trade again, thus making QoL worse, while ppl who use bots, multiple accounts, etc. would still do their thing.

So nothing positive would be gained, instead, negative effects appear again.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

For clarification, nobody said "remove Alva".
The problem is - if you limit trades per account via Alva, ppl who exceed the limit had to use the normal trade again, thus making QoL worse, while ppl who use bots, multiple accounts, etc. would still do their thing.

So nothing positive would be gained, instead, negative effects appear again.

wrong. what would be your solution to this problem honey ?