GGG, you need to fix Alva npc flipping NOW!

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

oh no , I've played the game too, that was just bonus, I just used my gold collected from doing my usual play. So nothing "sacrificed".

That's not the point.

The point is - there are many ways to "get rich" in PoE. And while you can flip to get currency, it's just another way of gaining something.

For example, crafting is not good currently, but if GGG improves it - you can make a lot of currency if you know what you are doing - you would call that an exploit too, like flipping the market.

Look, I'm not disputing that there are multiple ways to earn currency in PoE, but my point is specific to the Alva NPC system. This isn't about calling every alternative method an exploit, it's about highlighting how this particular system lets players earn currency much faster than traditional gameplay. That rapid pace not only disrupts the game's natural progression but also distorts the economy. This thread is focused on that discrepancy, and I'd appreciate it if we could address that specific issue instead of comparing it to other money-making methods.

Or what you going to tell me that players are making 8 divs /day ? Yeah some are, but most of the players don't. Many players are seeing their first div after 200 hr of game play. And if I've made 8 div with just using my gold flipping at Alva, on top of my drops during a day to me that is an issue. It shouldn't be possible to earn that much that fast with flipping. And if you don't agree with that is fine.

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

For example, crafting is not good currently, but if GGG improves it - you can make a lot of currency if you know what you are doing - you would call that an exploit too, like flipping the market.

I also don't understand why you are implying that I don't know what I am doing.
I know very well, I have over 1200 divs made from selling, crafting, normal farming, etc. Or if I am posting here something about Alva, to you it means I don't know what I am doing?

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

Or what you going to tell me that players are making 8 divs /day ? Yeah some are, but most of the players don't. Many players are seeing their first div after 200 hr of game play. And if I've made 8 div with just using my gold flipping at Alva, on top of my drops during a day to me that is an issue. It shouldn't be possible to earn that much that fast with flipping. And if you don't agree with that is fine.

That literally doesn't matter.

I refer now to PoE1 because PoE2 isn't finished/balanced in these parts, but...
many ppl can't make over 100 div per day via crafting, but that does not mean that crafting is broken or whatever. It just shows, the more you know - the better you can use it to gain something.
You discovered "playing the market", thus you gained usable knowledge and if you invest time, you can gain something.
Most ppl don't make divs/hour in the trials, but ppl who know how do.
That your flipping works so well now does not equal flipping success when the league is fresh, you have less competition and many things listed are not "monitored" anymore.

wait what ? jeez nvm lol

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

For example, crafting is not good currently, but if GGG improves it - you can make a lot of currency if you know what you are doing - you would call that an exploit too, like flipping the market.

I also don't understand why you are implying that I don't know what I am doing.
I know very well, I have over 1200 divs made from selling, crafting, normal farming, etc. Or if I am posting here something about Alva, to you it means I don't know what I am doing?

I wasn't implying anything, just don't read into things.

So... you made 1200div by playing the game... but you think that flipping the market is broken? Yesterday you flipped the market and made 8div.
Even if we would assume you would flip "more/better" - like 20div - that would be nothing compared to your normal practices.
If you flip 20div a day, it would take you 2 months to get your 1200div.
Obviously it's not that simple, but presenting Alva as too strong compared to other things is not the way.
Flipping exists since trade exists, and still most ppl don't flip. Not only because many ppl don't enjoy it, but other ways can be more profitable.

Mate, just read what I am saying is the issue here IMO. I don't want to repeat myself anymore. Done. As I said, if you don't see it that way FINE. I don't care.. is your opinion so it's ok.

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loopax55#5378 wrote:

Mate, just read what I am saying is the issue here IMO, I don't want to repeat myself anymore. Done. As I said, if you don't see it that way FINE. I don't care.. is your opinion so it's ok.

But your "issue" is not an issue and you care... that's why your thread has 15 pages of "you not caring"...

... jesus.. I just said I don't care if you agree or not.. I didn't said I dont care about this subject.