3.27 - I'm not angry, just disappointed.

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People saying this league is good are still in the campaign or didn't finish the atlas - they get 6 links and good rares from the tree and all seems fine.

But give them a week or two once they get to the endgame and see the abyss.


That is grossly incorrect. The only thing they nerfed were a handful of scarabs, because the amount of juicing you could do with them greatly outpaced literally every other strategy in the game. There's still plenty of juicable content if you know where to look.

Worst case scenario, there's content that doesn't depend on loot explosions to make bank too. Go farm Elder Guardians with Maven. Grind uber lab with gifts to the goddess. Go run some Heists. Do Rituals while juicing with the stacked deck scarabs. Sanctum misses you. ROMAN IT'S YOUR COUSIN NIKO! LET'S GO DELVING!

Just because you don't know what farming strategies are available, likely because you depend on whatever streamers tell you are meta, doesn't mean they don't exist and aren't good.

Bit of advice: Whatever farming strategy that sounds too good to be true, probably is. Avoid it, and when GGG eventually nerfs it, you'll be a lot better off. I knew Affliction league was stupidly juicy and avoided it, and in doing so, I didn't spend the next league after crying about poverty. I knew Merc league was busted beyond belief and only ever used an aggro sponge tank, so when they got removed this league, I miss nothing and am much stronger for it.


Lamo, they nerfed atlas and t17s too yeah? Whatever content that you mentioned isn't even remotely close to that type of endgame that people are taking bout. Real endgame is farming strats to get chase uniques and mirror tier item, not your average 50d gear that you can spend 5 days farming ritual and Uber lab for.
Let's put it this way, last league we got blight and abyss that is consistent 40d/hr. And as they get stronger they slot in more risk scarabs to up the profit and difficulty. Till a point they are strong enough to do 4 risk strat or move on to valdos farm, then some took it further to minmax their build and end of league.
This league? The best strat on t17 proven by streamers rn is at best 10d+/hr pure profit. And endgame chase item still cost near a mirror or if not a mirror or more. So people are stucked in doing 10+d hr start for days/ weeks before they can get their chase item. And what is next? Valdos farm? Guess what now explicit modifiers are all time low, valdos don't drop as often and good valdos maps ain't enough to supply the market. Titanic / magic
Blight? Dog shit cause of explicit modifiers making it absolute low prfit. Delve? Maybe if it fits your playstyle.
The point is, there is no chase content in endgame anymore. You reach t17 you can farm t17 scarabs and containment with 100+d build easily and there is nothing more cause everything else is gutted and it's the definition of boring.
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Lamo, they nerfed atlas and t17s too yeah? Whatever content that you mentioned isn't even remotely close to that type of endgame that people are taking bout. Real endgame is farming strats to get chase uniques and mirror tier item, not your average 50d gear that you can spend 5 days farming ritual and Uber lab for.
Let's put it this way, last league we got blight and abyss that is consistent 40d/hr. And as they get stronger they slot in more risk scarabs to up the profit and difficulty. Till a point they are strong enough to do 4 risk strat or move on to valdos farm, then some took it further to minmax their build and end of league.
This league? The best strat on t17 proven by streamers rn is at best 10d+/hr pure profit. And endgame chase item still cost near a mirror or if not a mirror or more. So people are stucked in doing 10+d hr start for days/ weeks before they can get their chase item. And what is next? Valdos farm? Guess what now explicit modifiers are all time low, valdos don't drop as often and good valdos maps ain't enough to supply the market. Titanic / magic
Blight? Dog shit cause of explicit modifiers making it absolute low prfit. Delve? Maybe if it fits your playstyle.
The point is, there is no chase content in endgame anymore. You reach t17 you can farm t17 scarabs and containment with 100+d build easily and there is nothing more cause everything else is gutted and it's the definition of boring.


If it is so boring to farm t17s repeatedly without a real goal other than to get more currency(which of course it is at some point, big whoopdi)then it might be time for you to tackle bosses/ubers in ssf or ssf hc. There is plenty of challenges in this game out of reach for 99,9999% of players. Go for it.

Also, 40 div/h with blight or abyss. You sir had some potent copium, lol. Just because one guy had a 40 div/h run once doesn't mean players come close to that average. 10 div/h sounds pretty solid, look for other challenges if you are bored or maybe it's time to play another game inbetween leagues, if you have done it all, no big deal.
Very good retention, congrats GGG
The retention is normal. Settlers league had better retention and last league slightly better but it was the first league since one year.

38,5% of players still active after 20 days is pretty much the norm.

good riddance risk scarab
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good riddance risk scarab


LOL. I dont know why people complain about things when they have the option not to use it.
Risk scarab in 3.26 was good because it helped to make content hard but rewarding.
So instead of risk scrab we now have ghosted legion. Is that imrovement of content? Definitely not.
The problem is that they then feel the need to balance everything around their ridiculous scaling design, because a very small % of players gets so much loot, instead of just implementing reasonable and unscalable base loot. This could get rid of 2 problems at the same time: People complaining about no loot while they do their alch and go thingy in t16 maps and the economy that goes poof because of 0,001% group farmers. Whatever strategy or scarabs they are using i don't care that much to be honest...

The most profitable thing in the game should be killing uber bosses. t17s should be there to aquire fragments for uber bosses, not currency and scarabs...things that give you uber boss exclusive drops like valdos maps should not exist in the game. Just my 2 cents, i am not really that much invested in this opinion, game is fine either way, but this is how i see things... Just look at a video of group play in poe, the screen is a bluuurr lol, do you wanne show that to someone if you present your oh so great game? certainly not
Last edited by Strickl3r#3809 on Nov 19, 2025, 7:22:15 AM
Today I was trying to roll 16,5 for the first time since patch and was never able to roll 100+ quantity (made 90 attempts 3 stacks of scours). Did GGG nerf quantity on 16.5 maps?
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The retention is normal. Settlers league had better retention and last league slightly better but it was the first league since one year.

38,5% of players still active after 20 days is pretty much the norm.

good riddance risk scarab



you forgot /s I hope...

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The retention is normal. Settlers league had better retention and last league slightly better but it was the first league since one year.



Excuse me?
On Probation Any%
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The problem is that they then feel the need to balance everything around their ridiculous scaling design, because a very small % of players gets so much loot, instead of just implementing reasonable and unscalable base loot. This could get rid of 2 problems at the same time: People complaining about no loot while they do their alch and go thingy in t16 maps and the economy that goes poof because of 0,001% group farmers. Whatever strategy or scarabs they are using i don't care that much to be honest...

The most profitable thing in the game should be killing uber bosses. t17s should be there to aquire fragments for uber bosses, not currency and scarabs...things that give you uber boss exclusive drops like valdos maps should not exist in the game. Just my 2 cents, i am not really that much invested in this opinion, game is fine either way, but this is how i see things... Just look at a video of group play in poe, the screen is a bluuurr lol, do you wanne show that to someone if you present your oh so great game? certainly not



First of all, if you having a fit because fubgun or empy group earn 10 mirrors, that is on you. At least players understand and see for themselves what they can strive for if they keep investing into their build

I always wanted to farm titanic+giga exiles but never farmed enough currency to upgrade my build to that level, happens, no hard feelings but I enjoyed the fact that this is possible. On top of that we had alva+evolve, abyss, 5x risk+breach (which I was able to farm), and of course titanic+blight.

In this league? Containment or scarab farm? That is all to strive for? Woah, amazing. There is of course blight but my PC cannot handle it.



As for the "Just look at a video of group play in poe" players ASKED repeatedly GGG to clean up visual clutter but GGG had done nothing to address that. Besides, seeing a whole screen explode, that shit makes me want to play the game, rather hit and parry, hit and parry, hit and parry...

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