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CanHasPants wrote:
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yhateful wrote:
Welcome to old school game mechanics. You may call them bad, but for the target audience of this game they add spice and feeling to the game.
<3
I'd like to see the reception Ghosts 'n Goblins would get if it were released today (the game I've ragequit more times than all others combined). I still haven't beaten the last stage on the second difficulty, and suddenly that really bothers me :3
If it works like on my C64 back in the 80s or whenever, then:
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756
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Posted bydudiobugtron#4663on Jul 25, 2013, 8:40:13 AM
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Rory wrote:
We've discussed this recently because of the massive number of CI + Caustic bug reports we get :P We haven't decided on a solution yet though.
Leave it! It would kill a life build so why not CI? If you play Standard then so f-ing what just a small amount of exp gone and a lesson learned. If you play Hardcore then you chose to have unforgiving results for not adding things up.
Berek's Grip Ice Spear
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/780707
Budget Magicfind and/or Hardcore Flame Totem
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211543
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Posted byNecrogue#4186on Jul 25, 2013, 11:00:42 AM
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People really don't read tooltips anymore? You seriously don't READ YOUR FLASK TOOLTIPS when alting them? How do you people miss something like this? I don't really care if they change the code and disallow the use of caustic flasks with CI, but seriously, it's time to read the fucking manual.
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Posted byvoidan#0962on Jul 25, 2013, 11:30:38 AM
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People really don't read tooltips anymore? You seriously don't READ YOUR FLASK TOOLTIPS when alting them? How do you people miss something like this? I don't really care if they change the code and disallow the use of caustic flasks with CI, but seriously, it's time to read the fucking manual.
Join general chat, you still see people asking how you use Wisdom scrolls, how to quickly return to town, what do >specific< currency orbs do etc. when it's all spelled out in straight forward english in tooltips that is a heck of a lot easier to comprehend then the skill tooltips.
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Posted byNicholas_Steel#0509on Jul 25, 2013, 11:51:03 AM
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has absolutly nothing to do with making choises. who chose to kill itself by using a mana flask? it only happens accidental. and where is the excuse that you only die when the auras take exactly 100%? btw. with ci u die from every % aura
not every player wanna read all the game mechanics just to make sure that there is not the wrong mana flask which can kill him. more over there are players from all around the world who wont understand every word written in english and who just wanna play and kill some mobs
u wanna say that everyone who doesnt read every single mod on every flask and every item correctly should die or rip his hc char by activating an aura or use a flask?
it wont add spice.. it slows the game down and people get frustrated
I'm pretty sure I prefaced my statement with "I don't know about the Aura in a blood magic map to be honest." So with a CI and Blood Magic, I just don't know the answer.
As for the choice to kill yourself, of course you're not going to choose it... but it makes you pay attention to stuff... and it gives users choices for things. You can't have the positive without the negative. A Caustic Flask TAKES from health and GIVES to mana. You can't have the "GIVE to mana" portion without the "TAKE from health" portion. And the real world doesn't always have "warning: this will kill you, so I'm not letting you do it".
It is up to the user to understand the mechanics and if you choose to play a low-health character, that is something you really need to pay attention to. Anything that involves removing health WILL kill you on a CI character. It's a play-style choice. No one is forcing you to be a CI character, and no one is forcing you to use caustic flasks.
Trust me.. I know people don't read. It happens all the time. We constantly get questions about "Why can't I do any damage?!" only to find out the user took Ancestral Bond and didn't READ the keystone. Not my problem, not GGG's problem. It's the user's problem. This game isn't supposed to be easy. This isn't "carebears". It's Path of Exile.
And then Caustic Health potions (which take mana to give health) work just fine for BM users. Mediocre to bad analogy is mediocre to bad.
IGN - PlutoChthon, Talvathir Last edited by Autocthon#5515 on Jul 25, 2013, 11:54:52 AM
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Posted byAutocthon#5515on Jul 25, 2013, 11:53:20 AM
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CanHasPants wrote:
I'd like to see the reception Ghosts 'n Goblins would get if it were released today (the game I've ragequit more times than all others combined). I still haven't beaten the last stage on the second difficulty, and suddenly that really bothers me :3
Well this game was really hardcore just like Green Beret.... good old times. ;)
"Yes, it is perfectly fair. It just sucks ass."
posted by Thaelyn on 12. August 2013 17:33
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Posted by666tnt666#2734on Jul 25, 2013, 1:46:00 PM
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Necrogue wrote:
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Rory wrote:
We've discussed this recently because of the massive number of CI + Caustic bug reports we get :P We haven't decided on a solution yet though.
Leave it! It would kill a life build so why not CI? If you play Standard then so f-ing what just a small amount of exp gone and a lesson learned. If you play Hardcore then you chose to have unforgiving results for not adding things up.
Alternatively have the tooltip reflect that it will kill you if you have CI.
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Nicholas_Steel wrote:
Alternatively have the tooltip reflect that it will kill you if you have CI.
It already does. It says it will remove life. You only have 1 life. Any life removal will kill you.
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Posted byXendran#1127on Jul 25, 2013, 6:01:11 PM
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Autocthon wrote:
And then Caustic Health potions (which take mana to give health) work just fine for BM users. Mediocre to bad analogy is mediocre to bad.
You don't die if you have 0 mana. You die if you have 0 health.
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Posted byUnderOmerta#1203on Jul 25, 2013, 6:05:26 PM
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Nicholas_Steel wrote:
Alternatively have the tooltip reflect that it will kill you if you have CI.
It already does. It says it will remove life. You only have 1 life. Any life removal will kill you.
I mean a statement that only appears on the tooltip if you have CI. Something like "Will kill you if you have CI" except worded better obviously.
At the moment it can fairly easily be misinterpreted.
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