A lot of caustic deaths are caused by not even reading what the flask does.
If you actually read the flask instead of glancing over it or ignoring it, there is no way you would be stupid enough to use it with CI.
It very clearly says that it takes a % of flask mana from your hp.
Last edited by Xendran#1127 on Jul 25, 2013, 6:32:45 PM
A lot of caustic deaths are caused by not even reading what the flask does.
If you actually read the flask instead of glancing over it or ignoring it, there is no way you would be stupid enough to use it with CI.
It very clearly says that it takes a % of flask mana from your hp.
I would be upset if this mechanic was changed. Read the fucking gear, noob.
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Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Jul 25, 2013, 8:47:50 PM
What it actually says is, "Removes 15% of Mana Recovered from Life when used"
Just out of interest, what does this actually mean? (I figured I'd ask in this thread since everyone here is an expert at reading the flask description!)
Does it mean that you lose life equal to 15% of the mana you recover, as you recover it? Or does the game guess how much mana you will recover, and make you lose 15% of that much life? Or does it work based on how much mana you have already recovered?
I think what it means is that you instantly lose life equal to the total mana that you would recover if the flask ran for its full duration. But it's not at all clear from the wording IMO.
Here's an example - let's say you are on full mana, and use a caustic large mana flask which recovers 160 mana over 7 seconds. When you use it, you have recovered 0 mana, and will not have recovered any mana after it finishes either. How much health do you lose? 15% of 160?
Face it, all of your suggestions are worse than this idea:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/657756
What it actually says is, "Removes 15% of Mana Recovered from Life when used"
Just out of interest, what does this actually mean? (I figured I'd ask in this thread since everyone here is an expert at reading the flask description!)
Does it mean that you lose life equal to 15% of the mana you recover, as you recover it? Or does the game guess how much mana you will recover, and make you lose 15% of that much life? Or does it work based on how much mana you have already recovered?
I think what it means is that you instantly lose life equal to the total mana that you would recover if the flask ran for its full duration. But it's not at all clear from the wording IMO.
Here's an example - let's say you are on full mana, and use a caustic large mana flask which recovers 160 mana over 7 seconds. When you use it, you have recovered 0 mana, and will not have recovered any mana after it finishes either. How much health do you lose? 15% of 160?
While you understand the definition perfectly (instant loss of health equal to 15% of amt recovered), I believe its based on, due to the wording, 'mana recovered' being the amt that the mana flask recovers for you
Cool, thansk! So if you have a 'increased mana from flasks' item or passive node, will you lose more life from using caustic flasks?
Yes, because it is then more mana being recovered. Essentially take teh amount of mana the flask regenerates in total, and part of that is isntantly taken from your health
What it actually says is, "Removes 15% of Mana Recovered from Life when used"
Just out of interest, what does this actually mean? (I figured I'd ask in this thread since everyone here is an expert at reading the flask description!)
Does it mean that you lose life equal to 15% of the mana you recover, as you recover it? Or does the game guess how much mana you will recover, and make you lose 15% of that much life? Or does it work based on how much mana you have already recovered?
I think what it means is that you instantly lose life equal to the total mana that you would recover if the flask ran for its full duration. But it's not at all clear from the wording IMO.
Here's an example - let's say you are on full mana, and use a caustic large mana flask which recovers 160 mana over 7 seconds. When you use it, you have recovered 0 mana, and will not have recovered any mana after it finishes either. How much health do you lose? 15% of 160?
Mana Recovered is a stat that flasks have. 15% of "Mana Recovered" is removed from "Life".
This flask has a Mana Recovered stat of 133. Using it would make you take 19.95 damage if it was caustic.
When u choice the CI, caustic mana flask directly kill u. It spends your hps %100, not %10 or %15. It needs to be fix.
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Its working as intended. Anything that uses a % of Life with CI is rounded to 1.
To clear up a misconception here:
Caustic flasks do not spend a percentage of your life.
They remove a percentage of the mana they restore, from your life.
If, for example, you have a caustic flask that restores 200 mana, and removes 10% of that mana form life, that will remove 20 life, because 10% of 200 is 20. If you have less than 20 life, that will kill you. It doesn't care about your maximum life or a percentage of it at all. The flask is not "rounding up" to cause more life loss than the stat says - it does exactly what it says on the tin (and in fact will round down in the event of a fractional part).
