Why is soul Taker so outrageously expensive??

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RagnarokChu wrote:

I literally explained the instance that people value the no mana mod on it for certain builds to give them competitive dps for rares/gear that would cast the same in value to do the same thing.

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You link me overpowered 1000% legacy facebreakers which is consider one of the best builds in the game.

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I can literally back the claim that rares of the same value of 6 link quillrain can outdps almost every single build using quillrin that is not explosive arrow or cast on crit. Unless your going to disagree with me.

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whoismiked wrote:

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Bumblebutt wrote:

50% less damage is not moderate by any mean. And 50% is already an understatement. I'd say about 1/3 of a mirrored rare weapon. And that's the damage of a 350 dps legacy ST. Try it when you have the money.

Wait, so you are claiming that you can get 3 times the DPS from a rare one hander. Please show me a 900 dps one hander. I haven't seen one.

And them you are contantly comparing mirror items (which cost roughly 150 exalts to get a copy) to a weapon that cost 50 exalts.

So you mean to tell me if I spend triple the price I can get more dps?!




lol this guy.

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whoismiked wrote:

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Bumblebutt wrote:

50% less damage is not moderate by any mean. And 50% is already an understatement. I'd say about 1/3 of a mirrored rare weapon. And that's the damage of a 350 dps legacy ST. Try it when you have the money.

Wait so you are claiming that You can get 3 times the DPS from a rare one hander. Please show me a 900 dps one hander. I haven't seen one.

And you are comparing mirror items (which cost roughly 150 exalts to get a copy) to a weapon that cost 50 exalts.


lol this guy.

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Bumblebutt wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

I literally explained the instance that people value the no mana mod on it for certain builds to give them competitive dps for rares/gear that would cast the same in value to do the same thing.

I've just showed you for virtually every attack skill in this game, there's a better and cheaper alternative to ST that also addresses the mana issue. I also asked you to provide builds that you claim to benefit from ST. You haven't given one.

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You link me overpowered 1000% legacy facebreakers which is consider one of the best builds in the game.

Considered by whom? but that's not really relevant. You dont need a 30 ex 1000% facebreaker for FB to beat ST. a 5, 6 ex 970% pair will whoop legacy ST anytime.

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I can literally back the claim that rares of the same value of 6 link quillrain can outdps almost every single build using quillrin that is not explosive arrow or cast on crit. Unless your going to disagree with me.

I don't care about quillrain or CoC. Derail the topic at hand because you can't provide proof is a sign of weakness.

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RagnarokChu wrote:

1. Give me a better and cheaper alternative for cyclone and dominating blow builds that uses weapons. Please don't tell me that it's cheaper for other skills in the game, I literally stated the item was not made for a dps boost for every single build in the game.

2. Face-breakers is bar none the most cost effective end game item in the existence of the game, please link me another build enabling item that is cheaper then that.

3. How is that derail the topic, I am literally using your logic. X item isn't good for a rare because it doesn't apply to the game in general? Link me a better item for explosive arrow or cast on crit builds for bows. Just because I can do more damage with lighting arrow or split arrow with another rare has nothing to do with why the current item is valued.

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Bumblebutt wrote:

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RagnarokChu wrote:

1. Give me a better and cheaper alternative for cyclone and dominating blow builds that uses weapons. Please don't tell me that it's cheaper for other skills in the game, I literally stated the item was not made for a dps boost for every single build in the game.

2. Face-breakers is bar none the most cost effective end game item in the existence of the game, please link me another build enabling item that is cheaper then that.

3. How is that derail the topic, I am literally using your logic. X item isn't good for a rare because it doesn't apply to the game in general? Link me a better item for explosive arrow or cast on crit builds for bows. Just because I can do more damage with lighting arrow or split arrow with another rare has nothing to do with why the current item is valued.

So you're basically telling me that the good example I just gave you doesn't mean anything because.... I don't know what you just used as you defense, but from what I understand, you want to "use a weapon". Oh, right, because facebreaker is not an item made for attacking. It's just there for the lulz, you can't really use cyclone or dominating blow with it.
I'm not gonna link you "another build". 1 is enough to wash away all your BS, bro. We're not gonna "scratch that, lets play again". This is not kindergarten.
Nope, don't care about quillrain, don't care about CoC. Talk about ST or get out.

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Bumblebutt wrote:

When you have 130 ex for a piece of gear you should want crit. Or you are a sheep
To be fair, ST does make cyclone viable. BUT, a legacy facebreaker with bm linked does just as much damage as a 6l ST and both can have all mana reserved. Think about it. Now that reduced duration is out, you can use lightning warp with FB just like you could use leap slam with ST