[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Hi, thank you for this guide, it's my first bow build and its a lot of fun to play it.

I have one question, i don't understand this

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Hatred+HOL+COH+AM
This is a great combination, if you're not running a utility shot setup and hate manually casting curses. However the damage from HOL is often not enough to cause shocks. In order to shock reliably I highly recommend combining this combination with PTL+WED in your main attack


I tried with Hatred+COH+AM and i never ever get a power charge (my gems are still low level - lvl 15 atm), than i tried HoI+Coh+AM and i sometimes get a power charge but not enough to have them always up.

I have PTL+WED in my main attack.

What do you mean with HOL?? There is only HoI, HoT and HoA.


So how should i link my gems to get power charges?

I have 5k DPS with Haterd+HoA/HoI running. Maybe i need to get some more lvl and quality on my ass. mark gem?

Ty


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iKanks wrote:
Thanks for clarifying. I have never used divine orbs before, did not know that they did not change tiers -- That's why I'm asking for advice.

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basta1982 wrote:

Honest advice: You are clearly not experienced enough to craft a bow without burning tons of currency. So you should better just go back to read/watch guides or probably even better buy a finished one.


I don't think crafting gear is rocket science, really. What kind of experience do I need to do it?


It is no rocket science, of course not. But it's not that easy as well. You have to be familar with the concept of prefixes, suffixes, the different tiers, master and meta-crafting to be able to actually know which rolls have potential and which have not. - If you don't you'll most likely just burn a lot of currency. So buying will most likely just be the much cheaper way to go. Of course you can just be really lucky and get merciless plus flaring with a few trys, but well you can win a lottery with a few trys only as well.

In the end it's your decision, - was just an advice. But when you'll come to the point where you have burned more currency than a decent bow would have cost, then don't say i haven't told you. ;)
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basta1982 wrote:
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iKanks wrote:
Thanks for clarifying. I have never used divine orbs before, did not know that they did not change tiers -- That's why I'm asking for advice.

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basta1982 wrote:

Honest advice: You are clearly not experienced enough to craft a bow without burning tons of currency. So you should better just go back to read/watch guides or probably even better buy a finished one.


I don't think crafting gear is rocket science, really. What kind of experience do I need to do it?


It is no rocket science, of course not. But it's not that easy as well. You have to be familar with the concept of prefixes, suffixes, the different tiers, master and meta-crafting to be able to actually know which rolls have potential and which have not. - If you don't you'll most likely just burn a lot of currency. So buying will most likely just be the much cheaper way to go. Of course you can just be really lucky and get merciless plus flaring with a few trys, but well you can win a lottery with a few trys only as well.

In the end it's your decision, - was just an advice. But when you'll come to the point where you have burned more currency than a decent bow would have cost, then don't say i haven't told you. ;)


I'd like to think I'm pretty familiar with rolling prefixes/suffixes.

But yeah, true. It relies heavily on RNG. I managed to spend ~780 jews to roll 6S on first Lioneye's Glare (at this point I have better gone with Vorici's service, haha) and it only took me 16 jews to roll my second 6S Glare.
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iKanks wrote:
I'd like to think I'm pretty familiar with rolling prefixes/suffixes.


I don't think you are, otherwise you would have realized that your phys-roll is not the one which can be up to 179% at tier 1. Don't get me wrong i really don't want to offend you, just want to help. When i was still unexperienced with crafting i did a lot of things wrong, which wasn't the best for my bankroll.
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basta1982 wrote:
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iKanks wrote:
I'd like to think I'm pretty familiar with rolling prefixes/suffixes.


I don't think you are, otherwise you would have realized that your phys-roll is not the one which can be up to 179% at tier 1. Don't get me wrong i really don't want to offend you, just want to help. When i was still unexperienced with crafting i did a lot of things wrong, which wasn't the best for my bankroll.

Looks to me like he understood that stuff but simply never used a Divine Orb. He said he didn't know that Divines don't mess with tiers, so it's clear where the issue comes from.

Anyway, using this guide with LA and Frenzy at the moment in Talisman after I originally wanted to go SA but missed the nerf. Followed Neversinks advice and went LA (I hate TS) and reached level 74. HP seems quite low with 118% at that point but it actually works out at 3.7k. With full charges LA (GMP+Chain) is at 12k DPS, Frenzy at 36k. DPS could be higher by using HoA, but HoL auto curse is just too awesome.

Once I reached the life cluster around bravery I'll search for a Rats Nest and Maligaro's.
Last edited by Vexra#0734 on Dec 30, 2015, 4:40:16 AM
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memberx wrote:
Hi, thank you for this guide, it's my first bow build and its a lot of fun to play it.

I have one question, i don't understand this

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Hatred+HOL+COH+AM
This is a great combination, if you're not running a utility shot setup and hate manually casting curses. However the damage from HOL is often not enough to cause shocks. In order to shock reliably I highly recommend combining this combination with PTL+WED in your main attack


I tried with Hatred+COH+AM and i never ever get a power charge (my gems are still low level - lvl 15 atm), than i tried HoI+Coh+AM and i sometimes get a power charge but not enough to have them always up.

I have PTL+WED in my main attack.

What do you mean with HOL?? There is only HoI, HoT and HoA.


So how should i link my gems to get power charges?

I have 5k DPS with Haterd+HoA/HoI running. Maybe i need to get some more lvl and quality on my ass. mark gem?

Ty



COH dont work with hatered man :) HOL _ herald of lightning or use it with herald of ice i think its wil be bether
Thanks for the build,

Why we don't pick Revenge of the Hunted node?
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mrelite85 wrote:
Thanks for the build,

Why we don't pick Revenge of the Hunted node?

We do, it's just no longer part of the core tree pre maps. If you check the full tree or the augmented tree you'll find it skilled.
is 22-27% crit chance
7-12% attack speed
or 60-79% increased phys dmg

best on a quiver?
I've played this build before and loved it. However I've recently acquired a Windripper and would love to give it a shot. I've refamiliarized myself with the core build as well as the little bit about the windripper build in the post after that.

My main question is does it use the same skill tree? Any help from someone or just point me in the right direction, is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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