GhazzyTV - Beginner's Build: Lich Queen Skeleton Summoner [AWAKENER FARMABLE]

I'm at 8k like with Vis Mortis, not sure if a belly is warranted, guess more life is always nice, the +1 spectre is juicy though.

Put this together today, I think summoner playstyle has made me mad with trying different combinations.....thx a lot ghazzy..

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Lurel wrote:

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Psykrom wrote:

After playing around a little in Path of Building, I saw the huge boost for a 21 skelli gem, so I went ahead and traded one.

I noticed you got a 21/0 gem. Though way more expensive, each quality % is 1% inc damage, so getting a 21/20 is a big boost too.

yeah but for now I could not afford it.

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Lurel wrote:

Put this together today, I think summoner playstyle has made me mad with trying different combinations.....thx a lot ghazzy..

that is freaking amazing. gonna be my next goal!

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Lurel wrote:

Put this together today, I think summoner playstyle has made me mad with trying different combinations.....thx a lot ghazzy..

How does it work for you? Do you use mage skellies or melee skellies?
I made the experience that too many melee minions are blocking each other, thus can not attack and just wait in second row. For mapping this might not be an issue, but for boss encounters (where you want the damage gain) it actually can be a problem.
I did Hydra once with Montregul's Grasp, once with United in Dream, and the DPS was worse with United in Dream bc of the said issue.

I'm wondering what a max block variant of this build would feel like? Anyone have some insight on this? Like less life, but 75% block/spell block. Seems like it'd be much tankier, especially vs. bosses/uber elder.

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Lurel wrote:

Put this together today, I think summoner playstyle has made me mad with trying different combinations.....thx a lot ghazzy..

Wow this is amazing guess it's hard to balance all the other res without 1 ring. i wonder if it's worth getting flesh binder ascendancy and get minion life for zombies.

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Lurel wrote:

Put this together today, I think summoner playstyle has made me mad with trying different combinations.....thx a lot ghazzy..

I bought one of these rings today and I am wondering what I should use in it. I am following the guide, using the mage skeletons / spectres / zombies. Keeping that in mind, what would be a good link setup to use the ring for? I figure since we are using an unset ring anyways for convocation on this insanely socket starved build, why not try to free up as many sockets as possible.

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ejester wrote:

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Lurel wrote:

Put this together today, I think summoner playstyle has made me mad with trying different combinations.....thx a lot ghazzy..

I bought one of these rings today and I am wondering what I should use in it. I am following the guide, using the mage skeletons / spectres / zombies. Keeping that in mind, what would be a good link setup to use the ring for? I figure since we are using an unset ring anyways for convocation on this insanely socket starved build, why not try to free up as many sockets as possible.

Is it possible to get enlighten in the ring? maybe use it for auras and try to get another aura in there? otherwise i would try to get a zombie setup in there and maybe get the 2 point zombie asc for more phys reduction and stuff like that.

nevermind just saw it's "support gems" only

Also what is better for jewels taunt or blind on hit for minions? so "% minion damage if you used a minion skill recently + blind on hit + minion cold damage" or something like that?

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ol_baid wrote:

How does it work for you? Do you use mage skellies or melee skellies?
I made the experience that too many melee minions are blocking each other, thus can not attack and just wait in second row. For mapping this might not be an issue, but for boss encounters (where you want the damage gain) it actually can be a problem.
I did Hydra once with Montregul's Grasp, once with United in Dream, and the DPS was worse with United in Dream bc of the said issue.

You can check my profile too, but I use melee skellies. They tend to all stack on each other and wail away at bosses, they don't seem to hitbox push each other out like in say, FFXIV. I'll pay attention more and see if its causing an issue.

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AiMBOYrEE wrote:

Wow this is amazing guess it's hard to balance all the other res without 1 ring. i wonder if it's worth getting flesh binder ascendancy and get minion life for zombies.

I've managed to balance my res (not for ele weakness unfortunately), without brightbeak on, so I can safely swap to Severed In Sleep bosses where I don't need the mobility. I've been going back and forth on whether to take Flesh Binder over Soul Weaver, but that will take a bit more than some quick maths. I just have a gut feeling that committing that much to the zombies would require me to allocate more resources to them to make it worth, such as dropping Vis Mortis (since I'm clearly not stacking spectre damage anymore), dropping my SG/TV shaped helms for something more supportive of zombies, and putting the spectre setup in the hungry loop (oboy another expensive task).

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AiMBOYrEE wrote:

Also what is better for jewels taunt or blind on hit for minions? so "% minion damage if you used a minion skill recently + blind on hit + minion cold damage" or something like that?

Optimally both. I only have a taunt one atm, and it's pretty awesome (as long as you watch bosses with directional abilities so you don't shield charge into them by accident being so used to playing "alone" builds). I try and go for life/minion damage on skill + taunt/blind.

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ejester wrote:

I bought one of these rings today and I am wondering what I should use in it. I am following the guide, using the mage skeletons / spectres / zombies. Keeping that in mind, what would be a good link setup to use the ring for? I figure since we are using an unset ring anyways for convocation on this insanely socket starved build, why not try to free up as many sockets as possible.

A good link setup would be whichever of those 3 minion types don't have at least a 5L supporting them.