vortex trapper gems?

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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unlucky_child wrote:

how do you proc elemental overload? i have same links as you do, but i have empower lvl 3 and it doesnt do as much dmg as trap and mine gem
I find cluster traps quite usefel both in pve and pvp

Cluster trap is a waste of damage.

Mine is level 4 tho and it's in a +1/+2 staff with a level 21 vortex. So the higher you get in levels, the bigger the base damage you get per level.

But its like better Inc of aoe, hit more, so i think, in the end it results in huger dps? in pvp and pve. If it wasnt for 4 vortexs, i woulndt use trap at all

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dalb3 wrote:

Handy boot enchant for ele overload

Could also do cwdt lvl 1 ice spear/gmp, but if you're a trapper your most likely getting 1shotted. But if not, could always try that ;)

why do u think a trapper can be 1shotted? i invest into life and block

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unlucky_child wrote:

why do u think a trapper can be 1shotted? i invest into life and block

Block is not that strong anymore and you will get 1 shoted by the same kind of skills you are thinking to use. (vortex degen unblockable)
Also bow skills like LA can 1 shot 9k life user. So if you want to stack life and avoid getting 1 shot you better have PLENTY of life.

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unlucky_child wrote:

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Simplesim45 wrote:

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unlucky_child wrote:

how do you proc elemental overload? i have same links as you do, but i have empower lvl 3 and it doesnt do as much dmg as trap and mine gem
I find cluster traps quite usefel both in pve and pvp

Cluster trap is a waste of damage.

Mine is level 4 tho and it's in a +1/+2 staff with a level 21 vortex. So the higher you get in levels, the bigger the base damage you get per level.

But its like better Inc of aoe, hit more, so i think, in the end it results in huger dps? in pvp and pve. If it wasnt for 4 vortexs, i woulndt use trap at all

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dalb3 wrote:

Handy boot enchant for ele overload

Could also do cwdt lvl 1 ice spear/gmp, but if you're a trapper your most likely getting 1shotted. But if not, could always try that ;)

why do u think a trapper can be 1shotted? i invest into life and block

For PvP, you want enough damage that people can't outflask the degen of your Vortex or just walk out of it. Cluster trap is gonna make your damage a lot lower. The vortex degens do not overlap. So you'll only get the initial hit overlapping. Those can be blocked/dodged.

I'm using single traps with only more multipliers socketed and I have about 180% trigger radius with a fairly large vortex AoE. When my trap hits somebody, they die. And even with single traps, I hit people constantly.

why do u use trap? (i know the answer myself but want to be sure) without trap i have more dmg?

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unlucky_child wrote:

why do u use trap? (i know the answer myself but want to be sure) without trap i have more dmg?

traps and self cast dps calculation is totally different. traps have most of the time much less tooltip dps but much much higher actual damage

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Rupenus wrote:

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unlucky_child wrote:

why do u use trap? (i know the answer myself but want to be sure) without trap i have more dmg?

traps and self cast dps calculation is totally different. traps have most of the time much less tooltip dps but much much higher actual damage

mind telling me how that works?

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unlucky_child wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

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unlucky_child wrote:

why do u use trap? (i know the answer myself but want to be sure) without trap i have more dmg?

traps and self cast dps calculation is totally different. traps have most of the time much less tooltip dps but much much higher actual damage

mind telling me how that works?

in traps / mines dps calculation, cast speed or attck speed are not included. when it comes to pvp, they have lesser pvp damage reduction cause they kind of... bypass pvp damage reduction.

thnx, i totally forgot that. Now i checked the damages on the skill itself and yes, trap does more dmg.

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unlucky_child wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

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unlucky_child wrote:

why do u use trap? (i know the answer myself but want to be sure) without trap i have more dmg?

traps and self cast dps calculation is totally different. traps have most of the time much less tooltip dps but much much higher actual damage

mind telling me how that works?

Like rupenus said, your self cast tool tip is damage per SECOND, based on constant casting.

Traps are damage per hit.


Also it's a lot easier to land traps than to get in near melee range to self cast a weaker vortex.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1700538/

ahfack doesnt use that, he uses frostbolts