EXALTED ORB Price Shenanigans [Delirium] 127:1 What is even going on?

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LowBudget780 wrote:


It's easy to figure out what is going on here, anyone with clear, objective thinking can read between the lines and draw a fairly rational conclusion. You just don't want to believe your precious little snowflake game is infested with bots for some reason.

Did you watch wrestling when you were a kid and believe all those guys like Hulk Hogan were just taking vitamins the entire time as well?


If it's so easy to figure out, explain it. In detail, with evidence, because that's how facts work.

Just because I've got no time for assumptions, estimations and guesswork, doesn't mean I can't admit a fault in my "precious snowflake game". If anything, it shows I'm after the truth, whatever it is. But only the truth. I have standards when it comes to sources of information and so should you.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
Last edited by Xavathos#5130 on Apr 1, 2019, 10:57:46 AM
bots exist - we all know this. nobody is denying it. to say they are the ONLY factor (which some have said in this thread) in exalt/chaos ratio is actually retarded. are they the MAIN factor? i personally do not think so. others do

your evidence that its mainly bots is one bot ban wave nearly a fucking year ago.
my evidence that its not mainly bots is everything else. theres drops in the prices without ban waves. there are rises in ratio without any seen factor.

yet people that believe in only bots will say, see? prices went up! bots are back in synthesis people!
then prices drop and you say, EH. slow bot league because league sucks.

you're like completely irrational conspiracy people blaming DA JOOS for everything. but being serious about it.
or, you know, DA RUSSIANS!
xMustard and Xavathos are asking to prove that bots exist.

Last edited by SunL4D2#6224 on Apr 1, 2019, 4:20:46 PM
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SunL4D2 wrote:
xMustard and Xavathos are asking to prove that bots exist.



alright. now im confident about your ignorance

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bots exist - we all know this. nobody is denying it.


shaking my head so much my headphones fell off
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xMustard wrote:


shaking my head so much my headphones fell off


You cant be that hard in denial? Few secs in google search with common sense yields the answer you are looking. Didnt take me longer.
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xMustard wrote:
bots exist - we all know this. nobody is denying it. to say they are the ONLY factor (which some have said in this thread) in exalt/chaos ratio is actually retarded. are they the MAIN factor? i personally do not think so. others do

your evidence that its mainly bots is one bot ban wave nearly a fucking year ago.
my evidence that its not mainly bots is everything else. theres drops in the prices without ban waves. there are rises in ratio without any seen factor.

yet people that believe in only bots will say, see? prices went up! bots are back in synthesis people!
then prices drop and you say, EH. slow bot league because league sucks.

you're like completely irrational conspiracy people blaming DA JOOS for everything. but being serious about it.
or, you know, DA RUSSIANS!


RMT is the main factor. Bots are a large component of RMT.



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SunL4D2 wrote:
xMustard and Xavathos are asking to prove that bots exist.



I asked to prove their effect on the economy, namely exalts. I didn't ask if they exist. You all just seem such experts in the field of economy on this game, you must be crunching some serious numbers to come up with these figures and claims you make, all I'm asking is for you to share them, so that we all know you're not just pulling rabbits out of a hat. A bot could do that.

I know how it all works in theory, not asking you to explain that either, I'm asking for proof, evidence of the fact. I know, crazy right?
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
Last edited by Xavathos#5130 on Apr 2, 2019, 1:49:22 AM
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Xavathos wrote:
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SunL4D2 wrote:
xMustard and Xavathos are asking to prove that bots exist.



I asked to prove their effect on the economy, namely exalts. I didn't ask if they exist. You all just seem such experts in the field of economy on this game, you must be crunching some serious numbers to come up with these figures and claims you make, all I'm asking is for you to share them, so that we all know you're not just pulling rabbits out of a hat. A bot could do that.

I know how it all works in theory, not asking you to explain that either, I'm asking for proof, evidence of the fact. I know, crazy right?


I laid out a detailed example of what happens. If you choose to ignore it, so be it.

And this "proof" you ask for is a complete cop out. You know full well the only ones with actual proof are the botters and RMTers themselves, and they arent on this forum worrying about exalt prices or even discussing the game in general. They are making money and doing something else with their lives.

And any that would come out and say they are, you would not believe, and they would get banned or edited off the forums anyways. I can attest to that personally just from something I mentioned in a thread. I dont know if I'm allowed to talk about punishments without getting in trouble so I'll leave it at that.

Exalts are the SoJ's of PoE. Exalts are the primary trade currency. Bots print chaos, and in turn, stockpile Exalts for resell. They increasingly raise the price on exalts, because they dont care how much chaos they cost; those are basically free to bots. So they continually drain the economy of exalts, nonstop, stocking them up for people to buy for real cash. Do you think they care about the first 30 people with exalts listed? Thats for normal players trying to save a couple pennies, I mean chaos. All they care about is having the exalt stock required when someone swipes that credit card on their site, and/or getting enough when the order comes in. Thats it. That drains the exalts, floods the economy with chaos(I wouldn't doubt they just do unid for 2c all day on exalt card maps), and raises the price on exalts.

Arpg's are huge business. More than most people have any idea of. Luckily, I had some inside knowledge during D2/D3, because thats what my friend did for a living. So I know full well from personal experience and contacts what the RMT market is like, and that is exactly what drives the prices in all these games.
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Destructodave wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:
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SunL4D2 wrote:
xMustard and Xavathos are asking to prove that bots exist.



I asked to prove their effect on the economy, namely exalts. I didn't ask if they exist. You all just seem such experts in the field of economy on this game, you must be crunching some serious numbers to come up with these figures and claims you make, all I'm asking is for you to share them, so that we all know you're not just pulling rabbits out of a hat. A bot could do that.

I know how it all works in theory, not asking you to explain that either, I'm asking for proof, evidence of the fact. I know, crazy right?


I laid out a detailed example of what happens. If you choose to ignore it, so be it.

And this "proof" you ask for is a complete cop out. You know full well the only ones with actual proof are the botters and RMTers themselves, and they arent on this forum worrying about exalt prices or even discussing the game in general. They are making money and doing something else with their lives.

And any that would come out and say they are, you would not believe, and they would get banned or edited off the forums anyways. I can attest to that personally just from something I mentioned in a thread. I dont know if I'm allowed to talk about punishments without getting in trouble so I'll leave it at that.

Exalts are the SoJ's of PoE. Exalts are the primary trade currency. Bots print chaos, and in turn, stockpile Exalts for resell. They increasingly raise the price on exalts, because they dont care how much chaos they cost; those are basically free to bots. So they continually drain the economy of exalts, nonstop, stocking them up for people to buy for real cash. Do you think they care about the first 30 people with exalts listed? Thats for normal players trying to save a couple pennies, I mean chaos. All they care about is having the exalt stock required when someone swipes that credit card on their site, and/or getting enough when the order comes in. Thats it. That drains the exalts, floods the economy with chaos(I wouldn't doubt they just do unid for 2c all day on exalt card maps), and raises the price on exalts.

Arpg's are huge business. More than most people have any idea of. Luckily, I had some inside knowledge during D2/D3, because thats what my friend did for a living. So I know full well from personal experience and contacts what the RMT market is like, and that is exactly what drives the prices in all these games.


It's not a cop out. If you say it exists and works this way, it should be something that can be indicated. How else did you come up with this idea?

Or did you really just apply some logic and assumed everything else from there? Because this is a serious topic with potentially serious impact, it should not be treated as a joke. Don't you agree?
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
I just want to remind everyone that there is a Chaos vendor recipe that allows you to convert whole set of common "rare" items into chaos currency.

So yeah, botters don't even have to farm specifically for chaos currency to get it in a very consistent way every minute or every couple of minutes.
Last edited by kentrylix#3006 on Apr 2, 2019, 3:59:56 AM

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