EXALTED ORB Price Shenanigans [Delirium] 127:1 What is even going on?

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SunL4D2 wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

Vault's new position has to take its part of the blame. Every other player is farming Vault map all day, every day, sextant blocking. I wish some kind of statistic was available, to the the amount of exalts generated per league. I think this league would be pretty close to the top of that list.

But maybe it's just the usual mid-league low-peak we're seeing.

I think it's just Mid-League exalt drop shenanigans like in Harbinger.

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Vurbnn wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

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Phrazz wrote:

Vault's new position has to take its part of the blame. Every other player is farming Vault map all day, every day, sextant blocking. I wish some kind of statistic was available, to the the amount of exalts generated per league. I think this league would be pretty close to the top of that list.

But maybe it's just the usual mid-league low-peak we're seeing.

I think it's just Mid-League exalt drop shenanigans like in Harbinger.

Pretty sure Vault is in a position that it can have more sextants than almost any other good layout map in the game as well as being the highest source of exalt generation in the game (as you get the random drop and several types of divination cards). Most other maps either don't have any exalt cards, or a single one. Also, to clarify before some people roast me. I mean exalt generation, like, creating "new" exalts. Not currency/hr.

Saying it doesn't is kinda being ignorant. However, i think that even worst case scenario, it's not the only contributor, nor a major one to the exalt "problem" in SC as a thread like this seems to pop up every league, no matter the meta.


I don't have any horse in this game though, as, in my preferred league, exalts always sit around 30c.... Highest ive seen in the past few leagues is 60 (for a very short while) and it hasn't been that high before or after afaik.


I just hope Vault isn't nerfed into the ground over some misconceptions, and instead, GGG takes into consideration the placement of maps for sextanting. Theres -really- no reason to run anything else in that area if youre going for raw currency, just Volcano and that's a bit of a stretch in distance.

Just needs more choices over which maps you wish to shape, and i mean actual choices. Nobody is gonna choose an awful layout with less sextants,packsize, and less divcard drops over a map with all of the above.

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Highest ive seen in the past few leagues is 60 (for a very short while) and it hasn't been that high before or after afaik.

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

Breach was different since the high end of the economy was driven by the ability to buy Chayula Shards, obviously it has a focus nowadays but not as strong. You couldn't always get Shards by the Exalt, you had to hunt out and pay with Chaos. So naturally C was more desirable in that league.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

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Vurbnn wrote:

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SunL4D2 wrote:

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I feel like you didn't quite read my post... at all... I specifically stated for my league (Hardcore temp leagues). I also specifically stated that vault was not the best for currency generation, but, for creating new exalts to enter the league, which may have a significant impact, but that i thought it wasn't a major contributor. and just to SPECIFICALLY state since you missed it the first time. i am speaking explicitly of creating BRAND NEW EXALTS as in NOT BUYING FROM OTHERS.

And because most people don't care about sextants, or didn't know about sextants doesn't reduce how helpful they are. It just reduces the impact. It also still doesnt change that they are an increase in the generation of, again, brand new exalts per hour through increases in packsize and quantity when ran on a map that offers players an opportunity of normal exalt drops, as well as all? possible exalt card drops. Player B may be sextanting vaults and may make less money than player A farming caldera, but i assure you player A "generates" more exalts, so while player A might make more money, but player B has brought twice as much exalts into the league as player A even though he's dirt poor in comparison.

Is it profitable? Don't care, i don't do it.
Does it still have an impact on the number of exalts brought into the league? Yes, regardless of its profit.

Again, this is from the perspective of a person who does not play softcore temp leagues, and is simply an as objective as possible perspective on one of possible contributors to the problem. I may be wrong, as the economy in my league is vastly different, and that's something to consider.

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I just hope Vault isn't nerfed into the ground over some misconceptions, and instead, GGG takes into consideration the placement of maps for sextanting. Theres -really- no reason to run anything else in that area if youre going for raw currency, just Volcano and that's a bit of a stretch in distance.

Just needs more choices over which maps you wish to shape, and i mean actual choices. Nobody is gonna choose an awful layout with less sextants,packsize, and less divcard drops over a map with all of the above.

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SunL4D2 wrote:

But ok. You realise Hoarder drop was nerfed very badly and people most likely actually get less row exalts from Vault now than before? Just like with bs like "Zana mods chaos sink" Vault most likely has nothing to do with Exalts price atm.